You are all going to love Hannah Rose May! One of the stars of the new Wesley Snipes film ‘The Recall’, Hannah is new to acting… but not to being a geek! Seriously, she really steps up to the plate on this episode as we talk X-Men history, her long love of comics books, say goodbye to Adam West, throwing her birthday at WonderCon and so much more! Plus she’s in the upcoming Netflix adaptation of the Cyberpunk novel ‘Altered Carbon’! She’s pretty amazing! On top of all that, our old Geekscape friend and current American God Orlando Jones calls up to tell us about the new Cosmunity app… and just in time for Summer Con Season! Enjoy!

 

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Almost a month ago at the Machinima upfronts in New York City, I sat in a swanky, modern backroom of a swanky, modern bar with Orlando Jones.

Two glasses of Jack and Coke sat in my stomach while finger foods I pigged on began to break down internally. I’m not Hunter S. Thompson, so I’ll never recklessly intoxicate myself before I do my job. But between the booming club music outside and Orlando Jones’ incredibly friendly, laid-back demeanor, I didn’t even think I was working at all.

We were supposed to talk about High School 51, but can we just talk about superheroes and 7-Up commercials?

“What superhero movies would you want to do?” I asked him. “Speaking as a fan.”

He pauses for a minute. “I wanna do X-Men.”

“You wanna do X-Men?” I ask him.

“Yes,” he confirms. “And I want to redo Blade. Even though I know Wesley and love him.” Then Jones tells me his final wish: “Black Lightning.”

As tempting as it was to ask him about his voice over work in Halo, I chose to focus the rest of the interview on his life after Sleepy Hollow and the exciting new projects he has coming up, as well as the overall state of geek culture. I couldn’t quite shake off the man who told me to “Make 7-Up Yours” when I was an impressionable 8 year-old, but just talking to the passionate man that sat next to me made me put carbonated soft drinks going up my rectum to the back of my head.

This actually wasn’t the first time I interviewed Jones. Back in October I spoke to him at the press rounds of New York Comic-Con when he promoted Sleepy Hollow. Months later he recognizes me here at Machinima, somehow. Does this make us best friends? It does, right? I’m going with “does.”

A half hour prior, Jones was on stage to announce a partnership with franchise producer Roberto Orci (who was not in attendance) a new project set to be distributed on Machinima in the coming year: High School 51. Described as a sci-fi teen drama, the series follows a normal teenager transferred to a high school populated by aliens who live among us.

I shouldn’t be surprised it was a Roberto Orci project, given his noted penchant for conspiracy theories. But Orlando Jones? I wanted to know everything about it. So I asked.

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Before we get into the big news about High School 51, I want to talk about Sleepy Hollow. I actually had no idea you were leaving until you said it on the Machinima stage. What can you tell me about leaving and your overall experience on the show?

Orlando: I had such an incredible time on the show. Amazing show, amazing cast, amazing producers, and it was one of the greatest times I ever had working on any show. And [High School 51] this was an opportunity to work with one of the same people who put me on the show, Roberto Orci, and work as a writer and producer and sort of create a new world. I think Cliff Cash is gonna kill it on Sleepy Hollow. I think they’re gonna have an awesome season, and I’m excited to work with Bob on something fresh and new. So for me, it’s all good news. I have no shade in my heart, it’s really been a great experience.

High School 51 is of course your newest project. What can you tell me about your particular involvement?

Orlando: I’m obviously one of the writer/producers. I’m not one of the co-creators, other guys and I sort of fell in love with it.

I would describe the world to you like this: We keep hearing about Area 51, we keep hearing there were aliens there, since the ’40s. But we never think about [things like], well, do they procreate? Did they give us technology we never had access to? Do some of them want to go home? Do some want to get rid of us? And what that ecosystem looks like if you have children. And when you’re trying to contain that level of secrets, that kind of information, over that period of time. It just seemed like a crazy world that was sort of untapped.

I always joked that Hollywood is like high school with money, and Washington is like high school with power. [laughs]

That’s an amazing way to put that!

Orlando: So [High School 51] is like high school that has both of those things at their disposal. Who do you trust in a world like that?

During their presentation, Machinima touted that they cross so many different genres, from comedy to horror. High School 51 sounds like a teen drama mixed with science-fiction. Can we expect both or one lead towards the other?

Orlando: I think it will lean in both directions. I think it’s really about building a credible world, and building stakes and elements that make sense in real world terms. So, in my mind, I think we would expect it to be the same way Sleepy Hollow was very much like. It was biblical, it had a little history in it, a comedy, it had suspense, it had this whole mythology. I think we’re definitely looking to build a world that is equal parts of all things as are required in the real world. And I think that means it will be a mish-mosh, but hopefully a crazy, suspenseful ride.

From Sleepy Hollow to Area 51, you seem attracted to projects that take history and play with it. What do you find fulfilling about playing with history?

Orlando: People of color are often not represented at all. And when they are represented, it’s in a way that sort of denies them any acknowledgment of the culture they’re a part of. I really like the idea of being able to tell a story and integrate those elements organically into the story, and I really like exploding tropes. Things that I feel like we’ve seen a thousand times — a damsel in distress for the female character, the Asian guy is always the smart guy, or the badass, those sort of elements that are like, really?

I’m tired of that too.

Orlando: Yeah! It’s like at a certain point you go, “There’s more to that community and culture, and it’s not even based on the real tenets of what that culture is all about. So the idea to tell stories and incorporate these different people in different ways so everyone is represented, and it’s still a story of science-fiction and espionage! [laughs]

All the fun stuff!

Orlando: Yeah, all the fun stuff! And it’s not necessarily about their culture per se, but also they’re not indivisible in the world. And that was exciting about Sleepy Hollow, getting to work with John Cho, and Tom Mison who’s English, and Nicole Beharie, Lyndie Greenwood, and John Noble, and myself, and Amanda Stenberg, Jill Marie Jones… It was such a multi-cultural show. I think it was the most multi-cultural show in history.

I spoke to you about that at New York Comic-Con. As a person of color, it means a lot to see people just be people.

Orlando: Exactly! To continue down that road, to me, is what attracts me to these things. I often like to do it in a place that’s sort of wilder and supernatural that gives me more room because I don’t want to tell — no shade on Gran Torino, but that’s not a story I want to tell. I want to tell a story that puts that kid in a different universe and allows us to talk about other things.

I assume that kind of parable will be in High School 51?

Orlando: Often. Yes. I think lone human, but you’re also looking at different species within the alien world as well. So it’s not just aliens and humans, it’s different people and I’m sure there are cases where people whose allegiances are to both because their parents are both. The idea to me is to build a world that has all the intricacies in it where there isn’t anything that is black and white. It’s got a lot of gray.

Speaking of these species, you have to build entire alien races and societies from the ground up. Was that exhausting at all? 

Orlando: [laughs] It can be. But I think rather than species, we thought of it as character. And then we chose to make those characters be different species. Some of them have the ability to be multiple. It was really just focusing about the characters and how they fit into that world.

Cinematically speaking, because we only saw glimpses of the series, what can we expect High School 51 to look like? Are we talking teen drama on a network, or a docu-reality kind of deal?

Orlando: I don’t think a teen drama [like on a network] is an exact match to Machinima’s core audience. I think you can expect something more in keeping with superhero/espionage-like. One of the ways you do this type of show and one of the ways we’re looking at is putting fans in the show. We’ll make an announcement in the next couple of weeks, “xxArray,” which is a machine that will allow us to put fans in the show, in 3D reality.

Really?

Orlando: We basically create a photo-real version of you and we put you in the show. But [it’s] just another way again to look at fan interaction and storytelling that isn’t about just telling a linear story. It’s about trying to create an engagement, and a nuance that often doesn’t exist.

Why do you think this kind of engagement is so — it’s obvious why it’s popular, but why is it just now catching on?

Orlando: I think it’s always been there, it’s just Hollywood is now interested because they’re trying to monetize it. I get it, that’s the kind of business they’re in. But what’s most exciting to me is about, I’ve met people in fandom who I’m not friends with. To me it’s the communication, the engagement. If we’re being honest, there are two kinds of communication in history: one to one, one to many. Twitter is many to many communication. That’s an exciting new form of communication that hasn’t happened existed in any part of human history, and it’s a fourth grader. It’s nine years old. No one knows where it’s going. So, the idea that we can connect and be doing theatre on our phone is shocking. It’s incredible.

That has actually happened, people have done Shakespeare on Twitter.

Orlando: Exactly. So to me, connecting to some kid in Germany is like, insane. And realizing he’s a fan of this and I’m a fan of this, and she’s a fan of that, and now you’ve made a connection for the rest of your life.

Machinima touted their millennial audience onstage and High School 51 is in some way giving them a fictional story about them. What do you think of the show — different from the rest of Machinima’s lineup — going after them directly? 

Orlando: To me, you tell a compelling story. Game of Thrones is not trying to appeal to millennials. They’re just telling a really badass, kick-ass story that people want to engage in and people want to see. Our job is to tell a really badass, kickass story. That’s not [in anyway] demo-stereotyping … so I don’t really see it that way. I see it as, “Here’s an interesting story world, here are some interesting characters, let’s tell the most compelling story we can.”

About that story. We don’t know too much about the meat of High School 51‘s story. What can you tell me about the central character and his journey that we’re in for?

Orlando: The most about his journey that I can tell you right now is that his life gets sort of uprooted, he finds himself in a place where he’s a lone species in an ecosystem of various types of species. He’s lived in a world where he’s been the majority, [and now] he’s entering a world where he’s the minority. And he’ll have to make the adjustments that go along with that. I think the problem is, how did he get there? And what role does everyone who put him there play?

What’s the most exciting thing about this particular project that is getting you amped?

Orlando: I get to tell stories for a living, and the opportunity to put those stories in front of people is a really difficult thing, particularly with a machine  like Machinima pumping it out and pushing it out. These opportunities don’t come that often, there’s a long arduous process to get to the point where you’re launching your new show with a network or studio.

So for me, when I get to this point and I’m not excited then I don’t want to do the show. That’s like showing up to the Super Bowl and you don’t want to play. [laughs] I’m hyped because this is the game, this is a big opportunity to work on a really big platform with a huge audience and turn out some content that doesn’t look like anything else out there. If that doesn’t excite you as a performer or a storyteller, then you dead. [laughs]

And Orlando Jones is alive.

Orlando: Exactly, I’m super alive, and I’m super excited.

We’re talking about audiences and geek culture on the rise, that’s why Machinima is doing what they’re doing. As someone who has seen this culture rise, what do you think of it in its current state now?

Orlando: It’s always going to be messy. It’s no different than sports culture. Sports culture is messy, there’s a lot of voices, there’s always yelling. There’s a lot of passion. Guys get dressed in green and yellow paint, thirty below zero and yell for their Green Bay Packers. What I want to see is fan culture no longer ostracized for their passion. Because we don’t ostracize sports culture for its passion. We don’t treat them as weird for dressing up like wild people because they love their team.

So cosplay should be totally normal, and geek culture and fan culture should be totally normal. I hate the fact that that happens to people, and I think it’s disgusting. I’m a proud member of this culture, I’ve been doing crazy shit since I was a kid. For me, I had the hurtful things said, I know what that feels like. So an opportunity for this culture to explode and really take ownership of what it is, because these are the people that love entertainment. These are the hardcore storytelling fans, and I have been one of these fans my entire life.

As one of those fans, what are you most excited about? Besides High School 51, of course.

Orlando: I’m so excited about Tainted Love, the next iteration of that we’re doing. I’m excited about the Ted Patrick story, that we’re getting ready to do about the father of cult deprogramming. Crazy, crazy, amazing story. Google Ted Patrick, you’ll see it.

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I’m excited about the show I’m about to do on the History Channel where I ask the crazy questions nobody wants to ask about crazy points in history. So I’ll give you an example: Richmond, Virginia. 1849. Guy puts himself in a box, ships himself to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Pays $89 to do it. The company, Addams Express Company. First FedEx of this country in 1849. This guy comes out of the box and he is free. He is in the box for 27 hours, if he makes a noise, they kill him. All he has is a beef bladder. He travels New Zealand, Australia, and the UK telling his story being shipped to freedom.

I went to Richmond, Virginia. I asked somebody to put me in a box, and I shipped myself to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

You already did that?

Orlando: I did that.

What was that like?

Orlando: It was crazy. I’ll be releasing the show I’m doing with History about it in the next couple of weeks where I’ll be able to get into a bit more detail. But I’m excited, and I’m going to do a big special. I recreate the shit you’ve never heard of where somebody back then did something crazy and I just go into it. A guy says to me when I ask him about Henry Brown, “Henry Brown was a very successful slave.” And I ask him, “How do you become a successful slave?!” [laughs] So the question is, how do you become a successful slave? The answer, Henry Brown. That’s how you become a “successful slave.”

I’m still trying to wrap my head around you being in a box.

Orlando: Six and a half hours I was in this box. They had a camera on me. I had to use three modes of transportation just like he did. So I get on a train, then I get on a boat, and then I get on a pickup truck.

And you mimic the same time that he was in that box?

Orlando: I did it shorter than him because transportation was different. He had a train, a steamboat, and a horse and carriage. It was 1849, there was no Uber then. [laughs] So yeah, it took him 27 hours, it took me six and a half.

High School 51 is set to premiere on Machinima later this year.

I grew up in high school watching Machinima. Not just actual short movies made from game movies — the genre known as “machinima” — but the actual brand. I spent entire summer afternoons watching Red vs. Blue like any respectable teenager growing up in the mid-aughts, and Arby ‘n the Chief which was nothing more than a dude playing with Halo figures and making them talk with automated voices. I didn’t have a lot of sex in high school, clearly.

With the massive growth in streaming games and free-to-play MMO tournaments and gamer/geek culture as a whole, I shouldn’t be shocked at how much of a viable brand Machinima has actually become. Yet, I totally am.

Yesterday I attended their upfronts in midtown Manhattan. The booming music, the attractive part-time models serving finger foods, the open bar and the attendance of men and women who looked like they leaped off the pages of GQ and Details legitimately astounded me. It was a complete 180 from what I imagined the collective brand to actually be when I spent those lazy, adolescent days of mine on YouTube. I thought Machinima was just a really professional group of guys operating in a basement, with someone’s mom cooking spaghetti in the kitchen above. I couldn’t be more wrong.

Machinima is still barely second, maybe even third or fourth fiddle to the bigger online networks like Netflix or Hulu, but they have a targeted audience that neither of those major players have: the younger, gamer-centric millenial. While Netflix and Hulu attract a wider range demographic, Machinima are zeroed in on the gaming 16-25 year olds. There’s actually a small overlap with Generation Z, who are just now getting their first jobs at Dairy Queens everywhere.

Such major growth over the last ten years, combined with the current, Twitch-zeitgeist ripe for conquering via shorter, snappier content that is easier to consume than even Netflix (you can’t exactly watch House of Cards riding on a bus, but you can watch Super Power Beat Down), Machinima’s newest slate of orginal and returning programming will most certainly make stuffy, older industry leaders take notice.

The full press release is below, and I go a little in-depth with my impressions.

LOS ANGELES, CA, May 4, 2015 – Machinima’s debut at the Digital Content Newfronts was nothing short of “heroic.” The first global many2many programming service focused on fandom and gamer culture, Machinima unveiled a programming slate designed to elevate and celebrate a global community of gamer, comic and hero fans through the most innovative content on the Internet. Partnerships with Blue Ribbon Content and DC Entertainment,Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Clive Barker, Roberto Orci and Bunim/Murray Productions, along with some of Machinima’s leading creator talent, showcase Machinima’s commitment to developing content across all genres, formats and platforms.

 

“Fandom and gaming engenders so much passion and engagement; it’s a cultural shift uniquely connecting with the most valuable millennials,” said Chad Gutstein, Machinima’s CEO.  “It’s this deep connection to our audience that has made Machinima the ninth largest video entertainment platform in the United States, and the second most watched programmer on YouTube.  With our new slate, we are reminding our fans and our clients of one very important fact: Machinima is back!”

 

Machinima’s programming slate includes:

 

Justice League: Gods and Monsters Chronicles Season 2

 

From visionary producer and animator Bruce Timm (Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: The Animated Series), Justice League: Gods and Monsters Chronicles turns the DC Universe upside-down. In this dark, alternate world, telling the good guys from the bad guys is never easy: Superman is not the son of Jor-El, he’s the son of General Zod; Wonder Woman is not from peaceful Themyscira, but rather the warring nation of Ares; and Batman is more vampire-bat than man…and he’s not Bruce Wayne. It is unclear if our greatest heroes are here to protect us…or to rule us. With Season 1 set to launch in June, Machinima, Blue Ribbon Content and DC Entertainment have already begun development on Season 2, a 10-episode follow-up to the initial limited series.

This is probably the one project I’m most excited about. It’s a genuine Bruce Timm series that takes Wonder Woman, Batman and Superman in entirely new directions. Speaking to Timm (interview coming soon), he told me that the online distribution means they don’t have to abide by any broadcast standards and practices, and that Timm had more final say over these characters than even DC. Stay tuned for our interview later this week.

DC’s Hero Project

 

Machinima, Blue Ribbon Content, and DC Entertainment are setting out to discover the next great creator for the world of DC Comics.  Eight contestants compete in elimination challenges to develop a live-action short video based on their own interpretations of characters from DC Comics’ Starman comic book series. Well-known guest judges and celebrity special guests will join bestselling writer and DC Entertainment Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns and a panel of esteemed judges to oversee the entire competition.

They chose the semi-obscure Starman. With the proliferation of fan film projects hitting the web, it’s nice to DC actually embracing fan-creation culture and actually giving the OK for people to make expensive fanfiction.

#4Hero

 

A modern adaptation of DC Comics’ cult-favorite classic “Dial H For Hero”, #4Hero is a live-action, VFX-heavy action-comedy about a young woman named Nellie Tribble who is quietly desperate to make her mark on the world, but wholly unprepared to do so. Nellie stumbles upon a life-altering smartphone app that allows her to instantly become a Super Hero for a short amount of time. The problem is her super powers are dictated by whatever is trending on social media at that moment, and they are always only semi-useful.

Dial H For Hero is indeed a classic amongst a certain group of comic fans, but this one is so of the time I’m afraid at how dated it could actually become. The preview video referenced Katy Perry’s sharks from the Super Bowl, as an example.

Clive Barker’s Creepy Pasta

 

For the first time, horror legend Clive Barker is stepping away from the creatures of his own imagination and entering into the world of Internet horror fan fiction, affectionately known as Creepy Pasta.  Starting with viral urban legends (e.g. Jeff the Killer, Slender Man and Ben Drowned), Clive Barker’s Creepy Pasta is an original series of live-action, blood-curdling short films.  These new tales will be curated and adapted by Barker from submissions obtained through the creepypasta community, and produced by Machinima to scare you to your core.

The second thing I’m most excited about, and if it weren’t for Bruce Timm this would probably be my number one. I’ve always been fascinated with folklore, even in the age of the internet such stories survive and thrive in ways even sages around the campfire couldn’t imagine. They definitely highlighted Slenderman but he wasn’t the only story. I question the legalities of this, but no one really questions the legality of the Jersey Devil or Bloody Mary either. The logo looked a little cheap, but it also had the DIY aesthetic that these stories were bred from anyway, so not a big deal. Can’t wait.

RoboCop

 

“Dead or alive, you’re coming with me.” OCP’s Security Concepts Division’s RoboCop program is back in an all-new, short-form limited web series, based on Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer’s 1987 classic action film. RoboCop returns to Delta City where viewers ride along with the now standard-issue RoboCop officers as they respond to calls from dispatch. Tapping into current themes of the surveillance state, the series is shot from the first person point of view of the RoboCop officers’ heads up display, along with security cameras, dash-cams, and drones.

 Literally COPS but with RoboCop officers.

Happy Wheels

 

“Choose your inadequately prepared racer, and ignore severe consequences in your desperate search for victory!”

 

                                                                        – Happy Wheels

 

Machinima will bring audiences an all-new original animated series based on Jim Bonacci’s hit online game Happy Wheels and produced by BMP Digital, the digital division of Bunim/Murray Productions (‘The Real World’, ‘Keeping Up With The Kardashians’). This must-see 10-episode short form series, which will feature fan-favorites such as Wheelchair Guy, Irresponsible Dad and Lawnmower Man, will expand upon the game that has more than 8 million players a month and showcase its notorious dark humor and penchant for blood and gore. Additionally, with over 3.1 billion video views amassed, BMP Digital is looking to leverage the voiceover talents of YouTube influencers such as Toby Turner (15.2M YouTube Subscribers, Cartoon Network’s The High Fructose Adventures of Annoying Orange) and others who have made this game so iconic.

This is where Machinima began to lose me, despite being their target demo. The promo video was funny enough, but I didn’t play Happy Wheels and it’s supposed to be a dark satire cartoon. They didn’t show too much beyond actual game footage, so I’m still kind of confused as to what the final product will look like.

Jerome ASF’s The Baka Chronicles

 

Adding to the gaming fervor, Machinima’s iconic Minecrafter Jerome ASF (3.6M YouTube Subscribers), will be teaming with N00b Adventure creator Jim Schwerfeger for an all-new series – The Baka Chronicles. Featuring Jerome ASF’s most beloved character, Baka, the series follows two unlikely server admins who problem-solve the hilarious antics of griefers, trolls, and kids who wreak havoc across their favorite multiplayer Minecraft server. Little do our heroes realize this job is a massive headache.

Out of all the projects announced by Machinima, this one is actually machinima. Can’t say I’m too interested, and the title reeks of weeaboo (which is the point, I guess). It’s a Minecraft series in the same sense that Red vs. Blue was a Halo show. There is an untapped market for kids and Minecraft, and while The Baka Chronicles could skew older, they’re missing out on a lucrative 9-12 year-old demo on broadcast.

Also, the presentation made it clear that their audience totally gets it. These upfronts are attended by much older, wealthy executives who totally don’t understand young gamers who are much like their own nieces and nephews. During a brief preview of an episode, one character literally stopped to jump in front of the character and (in a goofy, dumb bear voice) told the brand execs that while you don’t understand these jokes, our fans do. “So give us your money,” he told them, and everyone laughed semi-uncomfortably.

 High School 51

 

Created and produced by Roberto Orci (Transformers, Amazing Spider-Man 2, Star Trek, Sleepy Hollow, Lost, Fringe) and Legion of Creatives, and starring Orlando Jones (Sleepy Hollow, Tainted Love, Drumline, MADtv), High School 51 is as out of this world as the name implies.

 

Hidden away in the heart of Area 51, Dream Lake High School is filled with mind-blowing technology, top-secret government programs and a student body that is cool, quirky, attractive, and…well, alien.  No one from the outside has ever been allowed into the school and no human has ever attended…until now.

 

For 16-year old Alex Valencia, the first and only human ever to attend Dream Lake, high school is going to be tough. Fitting in will be one thing but his biggest challenge just might be saving the human race!

I spoke to Orlando Jones about this series so be prepared for the interview later this week. I can’t get too excited at the name Roberto Orci (during the announcement, Power Rangers was curiously mentioned amongst Orci’s credits) but the brief preview we saw looked intriguing and fun enough. It’s evocative of Roswell and Smallville, but for a very current audience that’s fully tapping in to the mainstream geek culture in ways that Roswell only accidentally attracted.

It’s definitely an Orci product though, as that man can’t get enough of government conspiracies.

 Returning Series

 

Additionally, Machinima is announcing the return of some of its most popular shows including AFK, Chasing The Cup, Realm, Battlefield FriendsSanity Not Included, Deck Wars, and ETC.

Stay tuned for the interviews with Bruce Timm and Orlando Jones later this week.

 

When I think of the great genre television shows that garner beloved fandoms, I think of one thing: The worlds they build. Whether it’s the Babylon space station, Westeros, or even just Sunnydale High School, fantasy is an escape and to build a world that feels real enough to make you want to journey through it is a magical thing. While the real city is a lot smaller and not populated by demons, the titular town of FOX’s Sleepy Hollow is a quaint little New York mountain town that has become ground zero for the Biblical apocalypse. I’ve been anxious to get to talk to the awesome, wild people who inhabit it and the creative geniuses who built it. At the 2014 New York Comic-Con, I did just that.

FOX’s Sleepy Hollow has been a major success and with only one complete season out there, it is bound to go down as a classic should the creative forces keep the momentum going. At the New York Comic-Con press room, a secluded area away from the chaos of the convention, I sat down on a roundtable with actors Lyndie Greenwood (Jenny) and Orlando Jones (Capt. Frank Irving), writer Raven Metzner, and executive producer Len Wiseman.

(Note: The following interview was conducted on a press room round table. Not all questions were mine, but all questions have been slightly paraphrased and edited to fit an easy-to-read Q&A format, as much of the round table happened conversationally. No drastic changes were made in the questions and the meaning and integrity of each question has been retained.)

The first to join us at the table was actress Lyndie Greenwood, who plays the tough-as-nails sister of Abbie, Jenny, and series writer Raven Metzner.

Sleepy Hollow has been a runaway success. With you guys personally, what is going on internally as the show ramps up for season two?

Raven: I wasn’t on the first season, but I was a giant fan of the show. So it’s extremely exciting to not only write and create on the show, but as a fan just watch it.

Lyndie: Excited and nervous. All of those things.

What’s it like joining a show that was full steam ahead already? Was it intimidating?

Raven: The first season was such a high bar all the way across. The great relationships, the amazing monsters, the great twists, the challenges and the bar of just trying to get above it.

For Lyndie, what’s it like for Jenny to finally start kicking some ass?

Lyndie: I feel like Jenny, the first scene you see her in season one, she’s doing chin-ups and push-ups, and is kicking ass from the beginning. It’s nice to have a team, to be a part of a team, and to be working towards the same goal, and to finally have people believe Jenny, which she’s been saying all these years. So, it’s gratifying to see her go through that.

So, Abbie and Jenny have had some tiffs. They’ve gotten over some of them, but they’ve been introduced to a new one: Reyes, and their mother. Can you tell us about how Jenny and Abbie will face those challenges?

Lyndie: We’re definitely going to learn more about the mother. And that is just an insane story. I think people will enjoy it, it was very fun to shoot too. And yeah, the sisters, they have tried so hard and they’ve worked so hard to be back in each other’s lives, you know Jenny has all these trust issues and she’s trying to work through them. But then they’re constantly hit with challenges of the apocalypse. [laughs] So it’s really cool to see them try to work this relationship out in this setting.

Do you think there’s something else? Once they do work through Reyes or even the apocalypse, that will eventually get in the way? Or is this the biggest hurdle they have to go through?

Lyndie: I just think life will throw things your way. Just by the nature of relationships you have to constantly work at them. So I think the sisters will have many, many challenges.

Raven: Also, the stakes are so high. I mean, its the apocalypse. The challenges they face are so monstrous, it puts all these characters into situations they never thought they’d be in before, and it makes them pushed up against choices they never thought they’d have to make and I think that you’ll see that coming up a lot this season.

How do you think Jenny feels about being out in the world when the demons that threw her in confinement are still out there? What’s her headspace like?

Lyndie: In a sense, she probably doubted herself at times. But now, she has other people backing her. She has that confidence within herself and is backed by people she’s starting to trust. So in a weird way, it’s probably satisfying. It’s kind of like, I told you so! In the worst way.

Filmmaker, producer, and screenwriter Len Wiseman swaggers over to our table and pops a seat next to Raven. Wiseman, mastermind behind the Underworld series, is among the helmers of Sleepy Hollow here at the New York Comic-Con.

You guys have crafted one of the most unique corners in genre horror. What exactly was the inspiration to mash up colonial America, modern America, and the Biblical end of days?

Len: You know, actually, here’s where it came from. When we did the research on the Washington Irving story, the original story of the Headless Horseman, [it] was created on the battlefield of the Revolutionary War. So, that had never been portrayed before. So that’s where the Revolution aspect came from. So it started there. And placing Crane there, being the one that was actually responsible for cutting off the head, creating the Headless Horseman, it then took us down the path of American history. With that character. And blending that with the Headless Horseman who happened to be one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, which was so fun to pitch because when you pitch “the Headless Horseman is one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse,” it just sounds correct! When we were pitching it to the studios, people were like, “I didn’t realize that.” You know? No, it’s not real, but it sounds so good.

What monsters have you guys enjoyed fighting the most, out of what we’ve seen so far?

Raven: I can say that my favorite monster is coming up in two weeks. Her name is the Weeping Lady, and she’s my favorite monster, because I made her! With the help of Len Wiseman and of course the rest of the writing crew.

Len: She’s a really cool monster.

Raven: I’m really, really excited about her.

Lyndie: One of my favorites is coming up too but I guess I’m not allowed to say. It’s the one after yours. And I’m not allowed to say! [laughs]

Raven: Nope! Nope!

Orlando Jones, who plays the hard-boiled cop turned institution patient Frank Irving, joins our side at the press table. We all have our iPhones, sound recorder, DSLRs, laptops, and camcorders scattered around the table. Jones, dressed like he just finished a GQ photoshoot, whips out his phone and becomes one of us. He could have had a fedora with a note that says “PRESS” and it would have been damn-near perfect.

Orlando Jones: What’s coming up midseason that you can reveal to us?

Lyndie: I told you to get out of here. I’m not answering your questions. Can somebody remove this man?

Raven [to Jones’ camera]: Irving gets naked!

Orlando Jones: Does Irving ever get naked with Benjamin Franklin?

The table laughs. I was told the Sleepy Hollow cast and crew have a warm work environment and that everybody there has a good time. Being up close in person to just a few of the actors and creatives, I wish I could be a fly on the wall on set.

Lyndie: You know what one of my favorite monsters was? Demon Jenny.

Len: Demon Jenny was awesome! When the dailies of that came in of that, you were so awesome in that. That was really creepy. And the final product of that, you with the eyes, with the voice, with everything, that was always for a director or producer, those elements are potentially very cheesy. Somebody gets possessed, and they do the demon voice, there’s always a high potential of failure for that there. And Lyndie pulled it off amazing. That was one of our creepiest moments.

One of the other reporters tells the table that she couldn’t sleep after Demon Jenny.

Lyndie: [laughs] Thank you so much! My friends and I when we were growing up, we used to find out who would do the most Satanic smile. Let me try.

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We all freak out.

Len: I think the best demons we’ve had have been Jenny and Brooks, John Cho. That was amazing too. Those two moments I think were — creatures aside — were I think some of my favorite.

When is Irving going to break out?

Lyndie: Yeah, when are you getting out?

Orlando: [to Lyndie] Listen, I don’t like your tone of voice. [laughs] You know, it’s gonna be a slow burn. And rightfully so. Right now he’s facing a different set of circumstances. Right now he’s estranged from his family, he just sold his soul to the devil, [he’s gotten] people killed … his family, [his] daughter in particular, thinks her father is a murderer. So, he’s in a bad way. Abbie, fortunately, gave me the advice to move to the psychiatric ward and get out of the prison to get greater access which makes sense given Jenny was able to do so much while she was there. So, it’s gonna be an interesting season. There are a lot of eyes on him. He’s in a very difficult post. He’s in harm’s way.

How do you think Irving feels about being banned from Crane and Abbie?

Orlando: He’s not aware of that. He didn’t know he was signing a contract with the second horseman, so he has no clue that visitation is being controlled by his lawyer At present he thinks that this is who his wife thinks should be his attorney, and that his wife has faith — his wife is an attorney — so he has no reason not to accept her her expertise. So, it’ll be an interesting Monday, I’ll promise you that. [laughs]

Irving sort of mirrors Ichabod, in the sense that he has both ties to his family and his higher duties. But Frank we saw in the finale do a really noble thing. And now he’s in a place where has to choose between his family, his protection, and doing his job. What is that struggle going to look like in further episodes?

Orlando: It’s interesting you say that. Tom and I were literally just talking about that two nights ago. In season one, we realized that we were captain to captain and having a conversation. [We were] two people who had been in military ranks as it were, and had committed to a structured environment, and now we’re fish out of water. Him being here and me understanding what he’s brought to this world with the war raging. It’s gonna be, I think, topsy turvy for him, because I don’t think he has his sea legs yet. He doesn’t know yet a lot of things that are still happening. But I think that his journey is still very clear to him. It’s to protect his family and do what he can as a disciple in this war. I see him very much as a disciple. He’s a man of faith, he’s a man who believes, and I think he’s a man who wants to try and leave the world a better place and whatever he has to do to do that, he’s willing to do.

Sleepy Hollow has garnered a lot of praise for being one of the most racially diverse cast on television today. People are now eyeing Sleepy Hollow as one of the most progressive shows out there. How do you feel about developing that reputation? Was that at all intended from the beginning?

Len: Not by design. It was not something that was in our plan whatsoever. Our script changed quite drastically throughout the process when we were writing. Abbie was, for instance, not written as African-American. And Ichabod wasn’t written [for] a British actor. So everything just came organically from what was fitting through casting. And, so, it wasn’t anything by design. John Cho was a favor. When the show was [when] no one knows what it’s going to be, when we were putting the pilot together, I called John because I worked with him before, I thought it would be great to have — you know, nothing to do with his ethnicity — it had to do with the fact that I wanted somebody people would freak out if he died in the end.

Good choice!

The table laughs. This isn’t Sunday at Comic-Con. This is a Sunday barbecue.

Len: I called him up and I said I want people to, at the end, [make them] say, “Did they kill John Cho?” And we can say, “Yes we did. We killed John Cho.” So that was it.

I don’t know what’s worse: The betrayal or the killing of Cho. I think it was the betrayal. It was, “No John Cho, no!”

Len: The head on the back wasn’t pretty either.

Orlando: But what’s really cool about the show, as Len said, was that wasn’t an agenda. And that the show became multi-cultural based on absolutely no choices about that. Just, who’s who we’re casting, who feels right for who, so it’s always interesting to read people on the internet go, “Oh, these people are so racist.” I’m like, you got it totally wrong! These are the last racist people ever. Because they didn’t cast it based on a grid. It was cast based on who was right for the role. And there is nothing truly better than that. To look at Hollywood today, and to have that happen in Hollywood today, given what Hollywood was just not a very long time ago, is a major step and kudos to our creative crew.

Sleepy Hollow airs Mondays at 8 PM EST on FOX.

Check out our interview with Sakina Jaffrey and executive producer Mark Goffman from New York Comic-Con 2014!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyl95obG0ac

Briefly: TWO Jean Claude Van Damme trailers in one week? What kind of heaven are we in?

Earlier this week we saw the first trailer for Welcome to the Jungle, the comedy that features the actor in a hilarious-looking survivalist role. Now it’s time for Enemies Closer. You saw the first poster for this one last week, and now (as mentioned above), it’s trailer time:

The movie also stars Tom Everett Scott and our pal Orlando Jones, and hits theatres (and VOD) on January 24th. Are you looking forward to this one? It looks like a lot of fun, right?

After a major shipment of drugs goes missing on the US-Canadian border, forest ranger and former Navy SEAL Henry is plunged into survival mode when the drug cartel forces him to help retrieve the downed package. Trapped in the wilderness with no communication to the outside world, Henry finds himself face to face with Clay, a man with a personal vendetta against Henry who has returned for retribution. Now, the two mortal enemies must make a choice: put aside their past and work together, or die alone at the hands of the drug runners, a ruthless gang who will stop at nothing to retrieve their lost cargo.

Wow, readers. Just wow. For the first time, Sleepy Hollow provided an episode that requires no qualifications, no hesitant ‘buts’ or ‘it’s getting better.’ No, siree, with episode nine, “Sanctuary,” Sleepy Hollow finally provided what we had been hoping for all season—a solid, well-paced, challenging and intriguing hour of television with few, if any, flaws. It was just fun. It was scary in parts. It had a little bit of BBC-esque ‘monsters in bubble wrap’ but it worked. The whole episode just worked.

We can only hope the trend continues.

We still have a fairly lengthy ‘previously on’ prior to the episode actually starting, but it seems we’ve finally moved down to just one (yay!) and then the episode starts right up.

The Frederick Manor in Sleepy Hollow's newest episode, "Sanctuary"  Courtesy of Fox.
The Frederick Manor in Sleepy Hollow’s newest episode, “Sanctuary”
Courtesy of Fox.

Don’t Go In the House…

A Jaguar with a chauffeur drives a young woman–Lena Gilbert, who is wealthy enough to have a ‘Family’ and a Jag and chauffeur/bodyguard—drive up to what she says used to be the Family’s ancestral home. Despite her bodyguard’s admonishments, she runs into the house. Because that’s what rich young women due at the beginning of horror movies.

On the second floor she finds a doorway blocked with some sort of branch/hedge thing—she cuts herself…and the branches come to life, dragging her into the dark.

We go to Crane and Abbie, coming into the precinct with fast food. Crane has a (somewhat entertaining) rant about food (fast food, what the pilgrims really eat…etc.) which winds down when he realizes that essentially, he’s just lonely. Abbie tries to cheer him up–not well–and then she and Crane get called into Irving’s office (the more Orlando Jones is in these episodes, the better they get—coincidence?? We think not) because super rich heiress Lena Gilbert (of the sucked into closet by branch fame) has disappeared, and the Senate Majority Leader wants her found (Crane is rightfully astonished at the idea of a billionaire…) but Abbie doesn’t see why she and Crane need to investigate it. Irving shows them a note left by Lena—with Katrina’s name on it.

With a little research, they discover Lena’s ancestry and from that, know which house she went to—her ancestor’s, Frederick’s Manor (the colonial we saw earlier). The two head out.

When they get there, it’s clearly time for a flashback, and Sleepy Hollow obliges. We go back to see a newly married Crane and Katrina arrive at a well-kept Fredericks Manor, where Katrina calls the place a sanctuary (like the title, get it?) and explains that the Manor is a haven for escaped slaves, for Lachlan Fredericks not only did not have slaves, but freed and protected any who came to him—as well as any other who need protection or refuge.

For once though, the flashbacks do not show Crane as an all-knowing sage, nor do they reinforce exposition which could have been shown other ways. This time, rather, they actual propel the mystery and the ambiance of the episode, providing foreshadowing and layers to characters.

Back in the present, Crane is mildly shocked—though he had just given a speech on human equality—that a billionaire would date an Irishman (Clooney). Funny, apt, character driven. Just all-in-all good.

Len Gilbert is rescued by Crane and Abbie.  Courtesy of Fox.
Len Gilbert is rescued by Crane and Abbie.
Courtesy of Fox.

Dead Bodies, Strange Voices and Doors Slamming Shut

In the house, Crane and Abbie find the body of the bodyguard (we hardly knew ye!) and when Abbie attempts to go outside to call for backup, the episode goes good old fashioned haunted house creepy: doors slam, shutters shut as Crane approaches, and light goes from bright morning sun to grey and spooky.

Abbie, understandably, is not happy. Winds blow, whispers right out of hearing—and a black women in period dress, that only Abbie sees. Apparently a haunted house crosses a line with Abbie, and she wants out.

Crane calms Abbie down and proposes they find Lena and try to get out. As they explore, he finds a book—Gulliver’s Travels—his wife’s favorite—and in it a letter. A letter from him, sent from Washington’s aide-de-camp when he died on the battlefield. Before they can discuss it much, the house goes all spooky sounds and creaks, and they return to their search for Abbie.

And another flashback, where we see the Manor in all its glory and meet Lachlan Frederick and his housekeeper, Grace Dixon. Crane realizes that the house was a sanctuary not just for slaves, but also for the powers of good. Protected against demonic forces.

Upstairs, the find a blood trail that leads them through a series of moldy rooms to a closet—where Lena is being held, caught in roots and branches. They cut her free—and the branches bleed.

Outside, an old tree stump comes alive. And not in the friendly Ents-of-the-Forest way either. As Lena is pulled free from her bonds, she cries that ‘it’s alive.’

At the precinct, Irving has Jenny in his office—where she is finally returning the two guns she ‘forgot’ to give back after the headless horsemen escape the week prior.

Before she leaves, she nervously—and it’s the most charming we’ve seen Jenny—asks Irving over to Thanksgiving dinner.  They mood gets a little flirtatious—before it’s interrupted by a wife? Ex-wife? And Irving’s daughter, who’s in a wheelchair. Jenny ducks out as Irving recovers.

SLEEPY HOLLOW: Lt. Abbie Mills (Nicole Beharie) searches a colonial-era house that holds secrets in the "Sanctuary" episode of SLEEPY HOLLOW. Brownie Harris/FOX
SLEEPY HOLLOW: Lt. Abbie Mills (Nicole Beharie) searches a colonial-era house that holds secrets in the “Sanctuary” episode of SLEEPY HOLLOW.
Brownie Harris/FOX

So, yeah, Great-Great-Great Granddad was  Warlock

At the house, Lena explains that she’s been researching her family history, and that Katrina Crane had interested her as she was the last person to seek sanctuary at Frederick’s Manor. She confirms a legend that Lachlan was involved in witchcraft, and Crane surmises he and Katrina were in the same coven.

They are attacked by a root-man (straight from the BBC…), and panicked, they run into hidden passages between the walls. Abbie gets separated from Crane and Lena, who crash through the walls to get out. Crane reaches behind to get Abbie, but instead his almost captured by the root-man. Lena helps him pull free and the two run.

Abbie, meanwhile, sees the same women in period clothing she had seen before—who we now know is Grace Dixon–who leads her through the passage and to an empty bedroom.

At the precinct, Jenny is confronted in the halls by Irving’s daughter, Macy. The two bond slightly over having-relatives-as-cops, and Jenny denies dating him (or even wanting to, though we think the lady doth protest too much). We learn that Macy’s spends most of her time with her mother in the City, and Jenny urges her to give Irving another chance.

Irving and his ex-wife have a tense little you’re-not-a-good-enough-father conversation, and in the end, the ex-wife, who doesn’t understand why Irving is there in a small-town precinct instead of the big-time city job he had before, says that if he cancels one more weekend with Macy, she’ll file for full custody.

Meanwhile,  Grace shows Abbie a vision—Katrina, giving birth. It is obvious something is trying to get at her—crows beat upon the window—and Grace is clearly the mid-wife, helping Katrina through the birth. Despite the difficult labor and the uncanny events, a baby boy is safely born.

Crane and Lena continuing running, trying to escape the creature. They do not succeed, and Lena is taken again.

Crane takes on the creature sent by Moloch to kill his son. Courtesy of Fox.
Crane takes on the creature sent by Moloch to kill his son.
Courtesy of Fox.

So, Crane, There Was This Vision…

Abbie, gun and flashlight out, stumbles through a hallway. Points for atmosphere,as the only-seeing-things-through-a-flashlight-beam is used, and used well, for effect from this point out.

She runs into Crane, who has lost Lena, and Abbie tells Crane what she saw. It’s a lovely bit of acting on both Mison’s and Beharie’s parts, as Crane learns he lost not only a wife, but a child. And that they had been left in danger. Abbie compassionate but stern.

She then tells him what we haven’t seen: that the dark forces gathering outside (sent by Moloch) started to get in, growing inside the property. And they attacked the same moment Crane’s child was born. Lachlan sends Katrina, the baby and Grace to his carriage, and is almost instantly slaughtered by the root-man. We hear the child cry—but that was all Abbie saw. We don’t know if the child survived or not.

Lena’s scream interrupts them, and they run towards the sound.

Lena stands in the basement, light only by a flashlight, and before she can speak to them she is pulled into the grasp of the root-man, who holds her by her throat.

Abbie can’t get a clear shot and the creature—and Lena—disappear. They cast their flashlights about—illuminating the roots along the foundation of the house. Crane urges Abbie to shoot them, and she does, which injures the creature, who releases Lena.

Grace appears again, escorting Katrina and the child to a secret door—to escape, for safety—and Abbie now knows the way out. The fight their way to the door and emerge, safe, outside the house.

Family sometimes chooses you.  Courtesy of Fox.
Family sometimes chooses you.
Courtesy of Fox.

Vengeance is Sweet

But Crane is not appeased. Though he knows the child and Katrina lived, he is infuriated at the monster who attacked them, so he grabs a flare and a ax from the back of the car, and goes back in. In a particularly powerful moment,he tells Abbie not to follow him.

He goes back to the basement and begins to whack at the roots, and finally the monster itself, killing it completely.

He stumbles out, splattered in blood (we know, we know, you’re thinking, ‘Yes! maybe they’ll get him some new clothes.’ Nope, sorry. His shirt apparently can instantly clean itself of blood stains, because, yeah, cotton weaved 200 years ago never held a stain). He gets in the car and Abbie, silenced, drives off.

They leave the Jag behind because, well, it’s a Jag.

The next day—Thanksgiving—Abbie finds a morose Crane in their secret-research-room (in his perfectly spotless shirt), where Abbie has gotten a package from Lena, containing all of Lena’s research on the Manor. In it, Abbie finds a family tree, going back to Grace Dixon…and ending with Abbie’s mother. Crane and Abbie realize they had been set on this path for quite awhile, and acknowledge each other as family.

It would have been nice to actually see them at Thanksgiving, since Jenny had invited Irving and it seemed like he had said yes, so it was weird that we didn’t see anything, but that was a very minor flaw in an otherwise really strong episode.

Stay tuned next week for all the haps in the Hollow!

Sleepy Hollow airs on Fox on Mondays at 9 p.m.

First, apologies for the dearth of Sleepy Hollow recaps here at Geekscape–between ComiKaze, and Blizzcon, and a terrible, terrible flu bug, we got a little behind. But we’re back, just in time for Sleepy Hollow’s best episode of the season, Necromancer.

The stars of “Sleepy Hollow” appear in a scene from the TV show. Nicole Beharie, left, plays police Lt. Abbie Mills and Tom Mison plays Ichabod Crane.  (AP Photo/Fox)
The stars of “Sleepy Hollow” appear in a scene from the TV show. Nicole Beharie, left, plays police Lt. Abbie Mills and Tom Mison plays Ichabod Crane.
(AP Photo/Fox)

A Recap in the Recap

So, in the past few weeks, Crane has been cured of his connection to the horseman, found his Freemason brothers (Ep. 6, The Sin Eater), John Cho rejoined the cast, and Crane and Abbie convinced Captain Irving of the existence of all things that go bump in the night while setting a trap for the horseman and then catching said Horseman (Ep. 7, The Midnight Ride). While still suffering from expositional monologues and occasional main-character-making-serious-bad-choice-itis (also known as the-plot-demands-I-forget-everything-I-know-for-a-moment syndrome), Sleepy Hollows is a winner this Fall season, with solid ratings and an ever-growing (and loyal) fan base.

The Horseman, imprisoned.
The Horseman, imprisoned.

A Hex, A Horseman and a Hit

The latest installment, Necromancer, starts out immediately after The Midnight Ride (still with the double whammy of voice-over introduction, though) which Abbie charmingly introducing Crane to the fist bump as they celebrate capturing the Horseman (using a Devil’s Snare straight out of the Winchester boys’ playbook, and wouldn’t that be a fanfic crossover made in Heaven/Hell…).

The Horseman is being subdued by a combination of hex candles, UV lights and the aforementioned devil’s snare. Irving—and a giant big shout of glee at how wonderful Orlando Jones is and how happy we are that he is getting SO MUCH screen time (especially in the super-sexy bullet-proof vest)—Crane and Abbie have a little discussion about the demons of hell that are coming their way and who they can depend on—namely themselves, Jenny, and the dubious ally in Andy Brooks (Cho).

Irving points out Brooks is dead (and can we point out, hopefully for the last time, that no one EVER noticed Brooks’ body missing from the morgue—not ever?) to which Crane and Abbie explain the whole Moloch connection (leading to the best line of the night, Iriving’s “Moloch, the demon on the top of the org chart?” great line, great delivery).

As Jenny was released from the hospital the day prior (which we didn’t see, which was odd, because what, did Abbie pick her up from the mental hospital, drop her off at home and say ‘don’t worry your super-skilled-soldier self, I’m going headless horseman hunting and there’s no reason you’d want to be involved in that!’??) and is now just hanging out in Sleepy Hollow, not at all interested in Crane or Abbie or what they might be working on.

Abbie asks Irving to go get her because she might be ‘useful’ while she and Crane find Brooks because he’s the Horseman’s voice.

Cut to two hunters in the woods who stumble upon the Horseman’s horse. One of them calls up somebody and speaks in German. Apparently Hessians just hang out in the upstate New York woods dressed up like deer hunters…

Once he finishes his phone call, he shoots the other hunter and takes the Horseman’s horse.

Captain Irving and Jenny head out on a call.
Captain Irving and Jenny head out on a call.

Things Aren’t Going to End Well

Back at the police station (Sheriff’s station?) Jenny comes in unescorted and greets Irving with what would have been a stirring speech against police abuse of power except she came in unescorted and uncuffed and of her own free will.

Irving and Jenny have a little tête-à-tête where they both state obvious things about each other in a level, menacing way so that we know how smart they each are and how much they don’t trust each other before they get interrupted by a ‘situation’ at a local antiques store. One that Jenny knows…because she used to do freelance acquisitions for the owner. So apparently she’s also Lara Croft.

Crane and Abbie wait for Brooks in his liar in the (seemingly endless) tunnels beneath the city; Crane finds an ancient plaque thingy with Egyptian hieroglyphs on it which lead him to believe that Brooks is the Horseman’s necromancer, or in Crane’s world, a speaker for the dead.

Sidenote: Okay, so a necromancer is usually considered someone who raises or speaks to the dead. TO. Not FOR. Usually for purposes of divination or power. A speaker FOR the dead is Ender Wiggan.

So they bundle Brooks up and take him the Horseman’s cell, and even though Brooks tells them that he has no free will and will do horrible things and not be able to stop himself, neither Crane nor Abbie seem daunted (even though he says “this won’t end well.”) and off they go to the Horseman’s cell.

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John Cho as the undead Andy Brooks, clearly not very well secured.

Everyone Needs A Little Druidic Incantation 

At the Antique store, Jenny and Irving discover that the place was ransacked by someone (or ones?) who stole a thracian phiale, an ancient relic safely kept in a…wooden box. Well, a wooden box covered in Druidic scripture (16th century, which wasn’t exactly pagan-religion friendly, and written in Norse runes, but okay….). Apparently it can break a hex spell (like the one holding the Horseman) and was taken by men speaking German. Jenny deduces that the Hessians will hit the grid next to take out the power to the UV lights.

Crane and Abbie bring Brooks to the Horseman’s prison (and where did the find time to inlay into the cement the devil’s snare?) and Brooks warns them one more time that it’s a bad idea…but they take him anyway, locking him to a chair and then putting cuffs (with LOTS of slack) on him.

The Horseman doesn’t seem to want to talk, so Crane taunts him, getting up close and personal and finishing with a shove, with dislodges a locket.

Brooks goes all black-eyed and possessed (at this point the Sleepy Hollow producers should really give a shout out to Supernatural…) and, in the Horseman’s voice, says the locket is Katrina’s.

So we all know there’s a flashback coming , and sure enough, Crane explains that the locket was purchased for Katrina by her fiancé, Abraham, who she jilted for Crane (Abraham is apparently Crane’s best friend and partner, though we’ve never, ever, ever met him before and how did he know Abraham and not Katrina??).

In the flashback we see Katrina, who is somehow no longer a simple nurse in homespun, if low-cut wool, but now decked out like a lady in a very expensive gown in a very expensive house. And apparently Abraham is a Loyalist? And Katrina is going to break of the engagement because it’s an arranged marriage and that sort of thing shouldn’t happen in the new country they are both fighting for.

All of that is very interesting but doesn’t explain why the Horseman has the locket. Crane thinks the Horseman might know why Moloch is holding Katrina captive.

Crane and Katrina, all dressed up in 1774.
Crane and Katrina, all dressed up in 1774.

Is That a TAC Team or Are You Just Happy to See Me?

Irving and Jenny—in full tactical armor and all SWAT teamed out—are at the power station to foil the Hessian’s plan. They capture three handily and then ambush the others with a full SWAT team. Yay, happy ending and lots of arrests (and supposedly lots of paperwork for somebody).

Crane continues to question the Horseman (a phenomenal performance by Cho as Brooks, by the way) and we find out that killing Crane is the Horseman’s mission from Moloch.

Meanwhile Jenny discovers that the Hessians had time to plant something at the plant, which starts a furious search.

The Horseman brings Crane up short by accusing him of betraying and leaving his previous partner for dead, causing Crane to start to lose control and get personally involved in the interrogation.

Jenny and Irving are too late, and an explosion rocks the power plant—and the UV lights go out (seriously, the Sleepy Hollow police don’t have a generator??). The Horseman is clearly not as powerless as they thought.

SLEEPY HOLLOW: Ichabod Crane (Tom Mison) searches for clues in the "Into Darkness" episode of SLEEPY HOLLOW airing Monday, Nov. 18  (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. ©2013 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: Brownie Harris/FOX
SLEEPY HOLLOW: Ichabod Crane (Tom Mison) searches for clues in the “Into Darkness” episode of SLEEPY HOLLOW airing Monday, Nov. 18 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. ©2013 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: Brownie Harris/FOX

A Duel to the Not-Quite-Death

As Abbie and Crane wait for Irving and Jenny to return, Abbie presses for an explanation to the Horseman’s allegations. Cue flashback #2.

Crane and Abraham were entrusted to take the Declaration of Resolves to the first Continental Congress (Abraham is NOT a Loyalist, then) and of course, as people do when on a highly dangerous covert mission, the two talked about Katrina and Crane thought that deep in enemy territory was an ideal place to tell Abraham that Katrina dumped Abraham for Crane. Why would you do that?

Abraham decides that the only logical reaction is to duel. Crane refuses, but is forced to fight to defend himself. Abraham is about to win but Hessians interrupt, shooting Abraham. Crane flees into the forest at Abraham’s insistence.

Crane insists on going back in but Abbie won’t let him as Crane is too emotional and raw—and Irving and Jenny show up just in time to provide a distraction. Abbie is upset that Irving has brought Jenny to see the Horseman, but more importantly, since they didn’t find the thracian phiale, everyone is now in a lot of super-duper-danger. Apparently, says Jenny, if the Hessians break in with the phiale and recite a druidic incantation it will set the Horseman free.

Irving positions men at every entrance to the tunnels and they decide that Abbie, Irving and Jenny will patrol the tunnels to secure them from the Hessians, leaving Crane along with the Horseman.

Brooks (remember all that slack on his handcuffs?) digs out of his own belly (ew) the phiale because apparently Crane can’t see Brooks from the two-way mirror/glass observation room that was so handily built into the ancient tunnels. And, despite being told multiple times not to trust Brooks, no one had bother to gag him either, so Brooks not only has enough slack to dig the phiale out, but no impediment to speaking the druidic incantation, which Crane still doesn’t notice because apparently he’s busy pouting about Katrina and Abraham…

Seriously, these people are really bad at this sometimes.

Abbie, Jenny and Irving explore the tunnels, where super scary demons slither about just out of their sight. Definitely chill worthy moments there.

Crane comes into the Horseman’s cell and still doesn’t notice what Brooks his doing…until Brooks calls his attention to it. And then Crane acts surprised that Brooks, who has said over and over again he has no control over his actions, has released the Horseman.

The Horseman breaks his bonds and gives Crane a sword and the two reenact the duel Abraham and Crane fought in 1774…revealing that the Horseman is Abraham.

The Horseman. AKA Abraham. AKA Katrina's ex-fiance.
The Horseman. AKA Abraham. AKA Katrina’s ex-fiance.

Apparently (cue flashback 3), after Crane ran into the woods, the Hessians performed a ritual which bound Abraham to Moloch and turned him into the Horseman. Katrina is being held by Moloch as a reward for Abraham once the four horsemen ride.

The Horseman/Abraham gets the better of Crane, and is about to kill him, when Moloch’s demon minions flash in, grab the Horseman and Brooks. Brooks cries out that the Horseman cannot kill Crane yet, and in a spooky-smokey flash, the demons, Brooks and the Horseman are gone.

So what’s next? It seems Crane and Abbie get trapped in a haunted house—where more than just a ghost’s secrets are revealed.

Join us next week for all the haps in the Hollow!

Sleepy Hollow airs on Fox on Monday at 9 p.m.

It’ll be three weeks before we get anymore Sleepy Hollow—but when it comes back, it should be with a bang—guest stars galore, including Fringe’s John Noble, and the return of the horseman.

But we’re not there yet, readers, are we? This week’s episode, “John Doe,” hit a lot of right notes and was a definite improvement over the good-but-predictable groove last week’s episode had.

Still had to wade through four minutes of ‘previously on’ voice over exposition before we get to anything new. Sure hope that will stop soon.

Ichabod Crane tackles modern bathroom paraphernalia (yes, it's a gif!). Courtesy of Fox and EW.Com
Ichabod Crane tackles modern bathroom paraphernalia (yes, it’s a gif!).
Courtesy of Fox and EW.Com

And the Adventure Begins

Eventually the voice over ends and we’re in a foggy, gloomy forest with a young boy—dressed like a page from a Ren Faire—being teased by a young girl that he ‘can’t catch her.’ With a laugh, she runs off (in white shoes! Who wears white shoes in the muddy, muddy forest?? A dead giveaway that something isn’t right) and he follows. He doesn’t get but a few steps before a horseman gallops behind him—Conquest, or Pestilence. The boy runs for his life, making it to the road as the horseman disappears into a fine black mist (an awesome effect only slightly reminiscent of Supernatural’s demon essence).

Side note: We had a joke planned about calling Pestilence Conquest but then some quick internet searching showed us the error of our ways: the horseman referred to as Pestilence is more commonly called Conquest. Who knew? Well, apparently the Sleepy Hollow writers. So, well done, them.

So, black dust swirl and scared boy segue into Crane and Abbie at Corbin’s cabin. Apparently Crane is moving in (…did Corbin leave the cabin to Abbie? Or Jenny?) and they’ve gone shopping for the necessities, like an orange soap-puff-thingy (they might have a name but we don’t know it).

After the requisite ‘you-must-have-faith/I-only-believe-what-I-can-see/but-you’re-a-witness/pfffft-whatever’ conversation (she refers to God as ‘the big guy’ so we know she’s a little agnostic), and the obligatory Crane-fumbling-with-modern-conveniences sequence (though those are funny. Mison’s frustrated-yet-polite-incredulity comedic timing is impeccable) Abbie gets a police call—someone has collapsed on a road close by.

She and Crane head out—despite her protests that it’s a routine call.

Thomas Grey is a boy-out-of-time in this week's Sleepy Hollow episode.
Thomas Grey is a boy-out-of-time in this week’s Sleepy Hollow episode.

Nothing in This Town Is Routine

Our young boy has made it to town, where he passed out. A few witnesses (namely a mail carrier) remember enough to know which direction he came from.  Abbie’s ex, Morales, is already there (why are there THREE detectives at a collapsing-boy scene?) Crane is intrigued by the boy’s clothes—again, he’s all short pants/long vest/peasant sleeve’d up.

Abbie postulates that the boy got lost from a Ren Faire. To which we had to scoff, because after five weeks in Sleepy Hollow, Ren Faire is not the first assumption we would jump to. More like ‘he must have traveled in time! Everybody’s doing it now! We’re going to need border police before these Elizabethans come and take all our jobs!’

Or, possibly, is he Amish?

Crane seems ready to go with Abbie’s premise until the boy wakes up and cries out (typing phonetically now): “Euld thrun.”

Crane understand him—it’s Middle English. Before the boy can answer any questions, though, the Paramedic takes him away.

Orlando Jones as Captain Irving. Courtesy of FOX, 2013
Orlando Jones as Captain Irving.
Courtesy of FOX, 2013

One Scene at the Police Station So We Don’t Forget It Exists

After the credits, we join Abbie and Crane at the Police Station. Abbie is going through missing persons because, well, she’s just not going to go with the whole supernatural forces theory yet. She defines ‘kidnapping’ for Crane (pretty sure that’s been a word for a while—yup, the internet says it’s English, from the late 1600s. So.)

Irving walks up for a status report; prompting another attempt to define a term for Crane, this one ‘John Doe’; Crane snaps back that he knows it, it originated in England (true, says Wikipedia, from as far back as 1300s).

Crane pleads with Irving that the child is from a similar distant past, as evidenced by his speaking Middle English (great King Arthur’s court reference by Irving, in his deadpan world-weary tone. The whole scene is just fun), Abbie says the kid isn’t in any database and that Morales—he of the ex-boyfriend-hood—is checking in with the local Amish (finally!).

Irving tells Abbie and Crane that the boy has some infectious disease and the CDC has been brought in and the boy quarantined. Abbie and Crane should go to the hospital to see if they can get any information from the child about where he came from and, perhaps, the disease which is rapidly killing him.

Oddly no one is checking in with Ren Faires…

Irving checks in with Morales, who brings up Crane as a possible problem (small town/people talk/he used to be a suspect). To be honest everything with Morales feels forced and awkward–the character, his dislike of Crane, his reason for being—and other than being the male-tight-shirt-wearing character to Abbie’s female-tight-shirt-wearing character, we are often left wondering what exactly his purpose is. He provides no real conflict and is apparently an inept detective (note: they still haven’t figured out John Cho’s body is MISSING).

Irving puts Morales back in his place (“is that gonna cause a problem, Morales?”), and thank God, that scene is over. Though Irving’s defense of Crane was awesome—including the part, when, alone, Irving silently doubts his own words.

We couldn't find a photo of the hospital scenes, so here's a picture of Tom Mison as Ichabod Crane looking especially delicious.  Courtesy of FOX, 2013.
We couldn’t find a photo of the hospital scenes, so here’s a picture of Tom Mison as Ichabod Crane looking especially delicious.
Courtesy of FOX, 2013.

VECTOR! CDC! QUARTANTINE! Out of Medical Words Now

Abbie and Crane get to the hospital, where Crane is appalled by the plastic quarantine sheeting.

They are met by an officious, brash and seriously one-note (BAD-TEMPERED GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL) CDC doctor. Who keeps calling the boy the ‘vector.’

Side Note: We know that in the study infectious diseases a vector is a real thing and is actually involved in the transmission of diseases; they are the biological or mechanical objects which allow the disease to jump to humans (think mosquitos and malaria…the mosquitos are the vector). We watched Contagion just like everybody else. But humans aren’t typically called vectors because even if they infect other people the disease is not species hopping. The first patient is called Patient 0 or something similar. Also, the CDC guy didn’t use any other infectious-disease type words like pathogen or virus or protozoa or virulence or vaccine or antibodies or gene-mapping…well, you get the idea. Not only was his character one note, but apparently so was his knowledge of contagious diseases.

Crane is offended by that (and rightfully so!) and wants to speak to the boy. He can’t touch him, but he can talk to him through a camera/TV set up. Which the boy, who’s from so far back he speaks Middle English, totally views as normal and doesn’t freak out about at all. Neither is he freaked out by the humans in biohazard suits or, you know, being naked and hooked to wires and getting pricked by needles. He’s the most composed ten-year-old ever.

Thomas Grey and Crane talk in Middle English via TV. Courtesy of FOX, 2013.
Thomas Grey and Crane talk in Middle English via TV.
Courtesy of FOX, 2013.

We Don’t Think Middle English Means What You Think It Means

So Crane—in fluent Middle English, which is saying something since no one in our time or his has ever actually heard it spoken—questions the boy.

The boy’s name is Thomas Grey (finally, a name!). He says he’s sorry—he knew he shouldn’t have left the village.

Abbie—who is just NOT going to let go of her ‘this all has a rational explanation’ viewpoint—says they ‘see this all the time,’ people locking up children and threatening them if they run away (in Sleepy Hollow, which just, like, ten minutes ago was described as a ‘small, quiet town?’ Who’s doing all this kidnapping and locking up off children all the time?)

Crane points out that usually such people don’t teach those kids Middle English; CDC guy demands to know where the kid is from.

Thomas looks at the camera and says he’s from the village Roanoke.

Roanoke, Virginia.

CDC Guy springs into action, calling for lots of things and walking off. Crane, however, doesn’t think it’s the modern-day Roanoke. He thinks it’s the Roanoke Colony—the Lost Colony. The boy’s clothes and speech point to it.

 

They talked like this guy wrote.
They talked like this guy wrote.

Side Note: So, here’s the thing. Middle English, as a language, which phased into Early Modern English by 1470—which slowly transitioned into Modern English by around 1650.

Roanoke Colony was founded in 1584. On the order of Queen Elizabeth.

Shakespeare’s Queen Elizabeth.

So Middle English wasn’t spoken in Roanoke—if anything the kid should have sounded like something out of A Midsummer Night’s Dream. And this isn’t just a few years difference: by the time Roanoke was founded Middle English hadn’t been spoken in over 100 years. Crane talks about the language of Chaucer—and that is Middle English—but Roanoke would have been speaking the language of Shakespeare or Marlowe.

Ok, sorry, end rant.

But, seriously, research, people, research.

Lt. Abbie Mills and Ichabod Crane track Thomas Grey's trail. Courtesy of FOX, 2013
Lt. Abbie Mills and Ichabod Crane track Thomas Grey’s trail.
Courtesy of FOX, 2013

The Middle Part Where Much is Discovered and/or Explained

So, Crane hypothesizes that Thomas is from the Lost Colony (cue Flashback). As Crane explains the Roanoke lore (cue move back to research-book-club spot) including that the first colonist was born in Roanoke Colony, a Virginia Dare (how does he know these things??).

Abbie and Crane have another ‘do you believe…?’/’I believe…’ conversation that is interrupted (thank goodness) by Irving calling up and telling them the disease has spread to the Paramedic and the nursing staff.

Abbie and Crane decide to go to the woods where the mail carrier saw Thomas and see if they can find any clues; back in the hospital the ill Paramedic, covered in black-colored veins, sees Conquest riding down upon him.

Crane and Abbie search the woods and using Crane’s super-tracking skills (of course he has super tracking skills!)–explained in an interesting two sentences by Crane, that he has noble blood and was raised in a regal manner. Abbie doesn’t have any questions. HOW can she not have any questions?? Nope, she just keeps on walking into the woods.

they follow the boy’s trail to a small island. Crane discovers a symbol carved between two trees which leads to a hidden path beneath the water (which is patrolled by some…thing. Which is strong enough to yank a branch out of Crane’s hands but not interesting enough for an explanation) and Crane and Abbie cross the water to the island, where a weird camera angle tells us they are traveling through more than just normal space…

As they step into a clearing, Roanoke village appears (looking just like it did in Crane’s flashback). The villagers are gathered around a well that is in the center of town, and they greet Crane in Middle English. They all have the black vein disease but no one seems to be dying of it.

Conquest (aka Pestilence) rides again in Fox's Sleepy Hollow. Courtesy of Fox, 2013
Conquest (aka Pestilence) rides again in Fox’s Sleepy Hollow.
Courtesy of Fox, 2013

Was it a Horseman? Vaguely Genghis Khan-Looking Armor? Bow?

A town Elder takes Crane back to Thomas’ house and explains that the original colony was beset by a devil on a horse (Conquest, knows Crane), who brought a plague upon them. Virginia Dare was the first to die and her spirit led the village to where they are now, and something in that place has kept them alive.

Thomas’ father pleads with them to save his son; a young girl offers Abbie a purple flower (which made it seem important but, no, no pay off on that) and they return to the hospital, where more people have gotten ill—including Crane, who has to be sedated before he submits to quarantine.

Crane discovers himself in Purgatory with his wife, who tells him he must be dead or very close to dying to be there. They don’t have much time before Crane is jerked back to his body—just enough to explain that she is held in Purgatory and that Moloch has not allowed her to contact Crane recently. Also, we get a not-really-Catholic-canon explanation of Purgatory.

CDC Guy is even more unbearable, and Abbie is directed by Irving to stop investigating some crazy Lost Colony theory and report to Morales for her road black assignment (I guess the town’s in quarantine and they don’t have any uniformed police to do that? And if you’re wondering, ‘when did Morales become Abbie’s boss?’ So are we.)

Lt. Abbie Mills ask for a sign. Courtesy of FOX, 2013.
Lt. Abbie Mills ask for a sign.
Courtesy of FOX, 2013.

Hey, Big Guy, I Need A Sign-Thingy. Kthxbai

Abbie slips into a convenient door to avoid being seen by Morales and the CDC Guy, which just happens to be the door the Chapel (praise for Abbie’ reaction, though, a sort-of resigned, ‘of course it’s the Chapel’). She has a heart to heart with the ‘Big Guy,’ asking for a sign.

Nothing happens. Leaving, she sees another penitent cross herself with holy water (not usually supplied in non-denominational chapels but okay, maybe that’s the mystical part) and everything clicks into place—

Abbie rushes to Irving and convinces him to release Crane and Thomas to her so she can get them to the water in Roanoke Village. Irving (via voice over) hatches a steal-the-astonishingly-ill-people plan which involves stealing an ambulance….and it goes off without a hitch.

Abbie, Crane and Thomas stumble through the woods to the village—Thomas clearly doesn’t have much time. Crane collapses and Abbie injects him with adrenaline to keep him going (a nice little ha-ha moment and indicative of the growing camaraderie between the two leads).

Crane, high as a kite, gets up and carries Thomas as the Horseman hunts them down through the woods.

Roanoke Villiage. Courtesy of FOX, 2013
Roanoke Village.
Courtesy of FOX, 2013

Run, Crane, Run

They get to the island just in front of Conquest; Crane jumps into the well (deep enough to completely submerge him and Thomas) just as the Horseman rides up to claim them both. Conquest is too late; the water covers Crane and Thomas completely.

After a moment, Crane emerges. Wet. But cured.

Thomas, however, has dissipated. As has the village-all that is left is a dry well and old houses. Crane—always helpful—realizes that Thomas and all the villagers had all always been dead, and Thomas the ghost had been lured into leaving the village by Conquest (and, we guess, brought back to some semblance of life??), who had hoped to spread his plague as the beginning of the end of days (if that sounds familiar, readers, it’s because Supernatural had a similar plot line with Roanoke, Pestilence and the Croatoa virus).

Crane tells Abbie she saved them by having faith (last week she learned to have faith too, so hopefully this one sticks).

They walk off, job well done, episode over—

Nope. One, final shot of the Headless Horsemen (somewhat awkwardly) coming out of a lake while his pale horse waits on the shore.

The Horseman. Duh-Duh-Duuuh. Courtesy of FOX, 2013
The Horseman. Duh-Duh-Duuuh.
Courtesy of FOX, 2013

The Wrap Up

All in all a good episode. The disease as magic or science was odd; not the combination of the two but how it was handled; the disease was a disease until it wasn’t. The CDC Guy, who could have added layers to the episode with dialogue about the strangeness of the disease, how it wasn’t viral or bacterial or something, would have given more depth to the piece, allowing the ending to feel like a real payoff and not just the end to that particular monster of the week. Also, the forced, cliché ridden conversations about Witnesses and belief and faith, while necessary (somewhat) in earlier episodes, are getting very rote now. Let’s see how Abbie is torn between her two worlds; facts and evidence, myth and superstition, instead of constantly being told how torn she is.

Also, if Crane could occasionally not know everything that’d be great. What’s the point of having all those books??

No episode next week, or the week after. Or the week after that. But hopefully episode six will be worth the wait–maybe Crane will get some new clothes! See the promo below for teasers and goodies.

Come back in three weeks for all the haps in the Hollow.

Sleepy Hollow airs on Fox on Monday nights at 9 p.m. EST/PST. It will return on November 4th.

So, congratulations are in order for Sleepy Hollow: not only is it the first Fox series to be picked up for a second season, but it also continued its upward trend: last night’s episode was by far the best in terms of consistency and plotting. Was it a little too procedural? Did it give up too much style for a predictable substance? Maybe, but it was still the best entry in the series so far. And it moved; scene to scene connected in a fast, cohesive and entertaining way.

The episode starts with a one-two punch of a voice over explaining the show’s backstory, followed by a ‘previously on.’ It’s a good two minutes of rehashing events before the show starts; when it does, it’s a flashback to Boston Harbor, 1773. Crane and a Revolution-era A-Team are tracking a cargo. It’s protected by another Hessian (they’re everywhere!), who blows it up with an incantation to Lord Death (never a good sign) and boom (quite literally) flashback’s over.

SLEEPY HOLLOW: Lt. Abbie Mills searches for her estranged sister in “The Lesser Key of Solomon” episode of SLEEPY HOLLOW airing Monday, Oct. 7 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. ©2013 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: Brownine Harris/FOX
Crane (Tom Mison) flashes back to 1773 and the Boston Tea Party.
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Back to the Future

Crane is giving romantic advice to an unknown woman—a radio show? A wrong number? Nope, the Northstar (read Onstar) lady.  It was a nice bit of humor before jumping right into the action: it’s just moments since last week’s episode, we find out, as a white cargo van careens out of the psychiatric hospital and Abbie runs out, informing Crane that Jenny has escaped.

This does nicely answer our final question from last week; Abbie had not left poor Crane all alone in the super-secret research room, but had brought him with her. And left him in the car, sure. Why not?

Abbie manages to convince Captain Irving to give her time to find Jenny before calling in the escape to State authorities. Irving, in fine, if caustic, form, eventually relents and gives Abbie and Crane 12 hours to find Jenny.

Meanwhile, Jenny (in a hoody as her disguise, because no one in a hoody has ever drawn unwarranted suspicion) visits a dive bar—apparently one of her old haunts. The bartender, Wendel, pours her a drink and welcomes her back.

Jenny drinks (one shot, whiskey. Just I case we didn’t already know she was a badass). She asks if Wendel still has her things. He does, and is glad to get rid of them–Jenny’s so badass even her stuff scares normal people. From a safe comes a mysterious, beat-up, badass duffel bag. Jenny spouts some more badass tropes, just to cement how truly badass she is, takes her bag, and leaves.

In case the scene didn’t clarify it—or the whole breaking out of the psychiatric hospital didn’t clue you in—Jenny is badass.

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Jenny Mills (guest star Lyndie Greenwood) after her escape from the Psych ward.
©2013 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: Brownine Harris/FOX

Ze Germans Are Coming! Ze Germans are Coming!

We move to young kid learning piano from a creepy German piano teacher–Gunther. CREEPY PIANO TEACHER. Who’s GERMAN. So, he’s the bad guy.

Gunther gets a creepy distorted-voice phone call on an ancient cell phone. The caller creepily telling him where to find Jenny (creepy!) and that Jenny might know where ‘item 37’ is. Also, a ‘team’ has been dispatched with info on Jenny and her ‘known associates.’ Even creepier! Gunther hangs up and abruptly dismisses kid playing song on the piano.

While each scene was successful, they were very routine. No new angles. No interesting quirks or inner dilemmas hinted at. Rebellious woman of course goes to the hole-in-the-wall bar when on the run; the bad guy is hiding in plain sight as quiet, foreign piano teacher.

These tropes are fine—the scenes were fine–they were just very standard. Still better than some of the more cliché heavy moments in earlier episodes. Besides, lots is happening and the plot is moving. Onward.

To Wendel, the bartender. Poor Wendel, it’s not such a good day for him. Gunther shows up with Central Casting German Thug 1 and 2.

Side note: That’s an awful lot of first-generation German’s hanging out in Sleepy Hollow. Just saying.

They ask for Jenny’s whereabouts. Wendel refuses. After the mandatory bad-guy-has-moral-upper-hand-because-the-bad-guy-is-aware-he-has-no-morals discussion concludes, Wendel gets tossed on the pool table with a case full of very nasty tools beside him.

Got to give him credit for refusing, though.

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SLEEPY HOLLOW: Ichabod Crane (Tom Mison) searches for Abbie’s sister.
;2013 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: Brownine Harris/FOX

Tell Me About Your Mother

Back to Abbie and Crane, who are at the police station attempting to figure out where Jenny may have gone. Crane, looking through Jenny’s file, questions Abbie about her childhood. We discover that Abbie’s father left when they were young and mom had a ‘nervous breakdown,’ putting the sister’s in foster care.

Crane notices in Jenny’s file that there was one foster family Jenny stayed with longer than any other—perhaps they might know her hiding spots?

Speak of the devil—Jenny’s at a truck stop bathroom, going through that duffel. Money, passports—guns. She holds both up (one in either hand) because, remember, badass? Then checks they’re loaded. Of course they are. Because leaving live ammunition in your weapons for years is totally not going to be bad for the weapon or the ammunition.

Back to the bar, where poor Wendel is dead—body hung from a hook, head in the pool rack. Irving, in a that’s-why-he’s-the-captain deduction exercise, points out to the detectives that Wendel was tortured and that the beheading is a drastically different type than that which killed Corbin. Poor detectives, they were so proud of their ‘same as Corbin’ theory.

Crane and Abbie visit Jenny’s last foster mother; who is, of course, a terrible foster mother just in it for the monthly checks.

Not a bad scene, played well by all involved, but it was predictable. Exactly what a viewer who’d seen Law & Order would expect. Yes, it gave us a peek into Jenny’s life but we already knew it wasn’t ice cream and puppies. But it didn’t challenge us. Or surprise us. Or take any risks.

Turns out foster mom does know one or two things about Jenny—including that she used to visit a cabin up by the lake when she was upset.

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Lt. Abbie Mills deftly picks a lock.
©2013 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: Brownine Harris/FOX

Into the Woods

Crane and Abbie go to the cabin; Abbie breaks in with her lock picking skills.

Turns out its Corbin’s cabin—and Jenny is there. Corbin, apparently, mentored both girls in different ways. Abbie towards a career as an officer of the law, Jenny as a sort of super-commando.

The sisters pull guns on each other (because who among us hasn’t wished, every now and then, to be able to aim a weapon at a sibling’s head?) and proceed to have a series of sisterly arguments.

Crane chides them for both being childish and they put the guns away. Jenny reveals that Corbin visited her the day before he died and told her that he had a premonition of his death—and if that happened, she was to go to his cabin because there was an important object there.

Now, if you’re asking yourself, why did she even bother to store her stuff at the bar when there was Corbin’s super-secret cabin? The one no one knew about and far less likely to be traceable, or sold while she was locked up, or burnt down or whatever—that’s a good question.

Of course if she hadn’t gone to the bar we wouldn’t have known what a badass she was—and that she could hold a gun in each hand while looking pensive.

So, Jenny pulls out a wooden box that hides a leather bag that holds a sextant and a scrap of leather with a symbol on it.

The symbol sparks yet another one of Crane’s recollections—this time back to Boston Harbor, 1773, and the Colonial Mission: Impossible team. Turns out they—sent by Washington himself–were after a device that was stored in a box that had the same symbol.

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Lt. Abbie Mills (Nicole Beharie, C) and Ichabod Crane (Tom Mison, L) find Abbie’s estranged sister, Jenny (guest star Lyndie Greenwood, R).
©2013 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: Brownine Harris/FOX

And Voila. A Secret Map!

Crane rearranges the parts of the sextant to reveal that it is also a projector—and it projects a map of Sleep Hollow where the mystery box is hidden.

They are interrupted by gunshots—it’s the Germans (plausible that they found the cabin, since the distorted voice did tell Gunther that there would be a list of known associates). After a shootout that proved everyone involved is a terrible shot, German Thug 1 and 2 run off with the sextant—leaving Gunther behind to answer just enough questions to move the plot forward before crunching down on a cyanide pill (why he waited until after he had given them all the information, we don’t know).

There’s a torture/don’t torture argument between Jenny and Abbie which doesn’t really go anywhere, but does show off Jenny’s knowledge of guns. ‘Cause she’s badass. Just in case we’d forgotten.

Meanwhile, Irving has found Gunther’s house using good old-fashioned police work. The house is normal—the basement? Not so much.

Apparently the Hessians—we know Gunther is a Hessian thanks to a tattoo on his chest—have been living in secret in the community just waiting for the signs so that they can assist their evil dark lord.

Side note: Was anyone else unsure if the Germans had been there for hundreds of years, unaging, or if there was some secret Hessian society still operating, training little Hessians to be sleeper agents and sending them over?

The object they are after is the Book of Solomon, where according to legend, King Solomon wrote down the spells that would release the 37 demons from their banishment to Hell’s 7th circle.

Along with those demons, the demon king? Lord? Ruler of some sort would also rise—Moloch, or the demon Abbie and Jenny saw in the woods all those years ago. The brains of the operation, so to speak.

So Gunther crunches a cyanide pill and dies. Crane—he of the memory—draws the stolen map. Solomon’s book is buried in the abandoned Dutch Reform church. Off they go.

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SLEEPY HOLLOW: Lt. Abbie Mills (Nicole Beharie, R) and Ichabod Crane (Tom Mison, L) search for Abbie’s estranged sister.
2013 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: Brownine Harris/FOX

To the Creepy Abandoned Church!

German Thugs 1 & 2 are already there. It’s a suitably creepy church, though the statue of a nun seems a little off (didn’t think Dutch Reform went in for nuns, but okay) and they—rather easily—find the chest (with the book inside it) hidden in a fireplace.

Side note: Why didn’t someone just hide the book in the library? Or the super-secret research room? It’d probably be harder to find then in some giant stone box with demonic writing all over it.

Also, was the Church deconsecrated? If not, does the consecration rule not work in the Sleepy Hollow world? If not, why not?

Crane, Jenny and Abbie rush over, and during the car ride we learn that Jenny traveled the world as a freedom fighter and has super-commando training. Of course she does.

This is a reoccurring issue; our characters are all the super-best. Crane remembers everything and always has the perfect flashback to solve the case. Abby is a super-cop; Jenny is a special forces trained freedom fighter. If they have these great strengths, they should have correspondingly great weaknesses. But their foibles and weaknesses aren’t truly detrimental to their attempts to fight the good fight, nor do they force them to change, or cause them any real loss—they are the kind of weaknesses you say you have at a job interview: “I just work too hard,” or “I find that my greatest weakness is once I’m given a task I just have to complete it,” or “I pay too much attention to detail.” These aren’t real, fatal flaws and without them the characters remain stereotypes.

There is a pointed conversation between Jenny and Crane about fighting for things one believes in. Considering the day Abby’s had, Crane and Jenny are lucky all she did was roll her eyes.

Back at the Church, German Thug 1 and 2 find a spooky baptismal font in the center of the church. They open up the book (a decidedly medieval-looking book, which isn’t quite right for Solomon’s time but okay) and chant the super-evil chant to wake up Moloch (in German, nonetheless, ‘cause that was around 3000 years ago). The baptismal font bursts into flames and oily goo spills out into a pentagon-y shape.

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SLEEPY HOLLOW: Jenny Mills (guest star Lyndie Greenwood) in the final moments of the episode.
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That Was Almost A Close Call

Crane, Jenny and Abbie rush in. Despite having numbers on their side, and surprise, and supposedly being a super-cop and commando-chick, they are handily defeated by the German’s when one of them takes Jenny down and holds a gun to her head just as Abbie reaches the book.

The German tells Abbie to put the book down or Jenny gets it (if you are feeling like you’ve seen this before, reader, you have).

Abbie, of course, throws the book down into the flames. The German let’s Jenny go to try to save it—the book bursts into flames, and the Hell portal closes. It was just that easy.

There’s another brief scuffle and both the Germans end up dead.

Back at the police station (Still no paperwork!) Jenny and Abbie make amends, because Abbie arranges for Jenny to get out of the psych hospital early (no charges for the escape, the hospital doesn’t want the ‘bad press’) under Abbie’s conservatorship.

We end with Crane showing Abbie an excerpt from Paradise Lost that refers to Moloch. Moloch led a revolt of demons against heaven and was punished. He is the demon of child sacrifices, and the demon which controls the horseman, and imprisons Crane’s wife.

Now, says Crane, they know his name.

Tune in next week for more haps in the Hollow!

Sleepy Hollow airs on Fox Monday nights at 9 p.m. EST/PST

Sleepy Hollow Pulls Ahead

Sleepy Hollow, the new genre-tastic show from the powerhouse team of Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman (Fringe, Star Trek: Into Darkness) along with Phillip Iscove and Len Wiseman, and starring fan favorites John Cho, Orlando Jones and Clancy Brown, with Nicole Beharie (42) and Tom Mison (Salman Fishing on the Yemen), premiered last night on Fox to a whopping 10 million viewers—a 3.4 rating among adults 18-49–making it Fox’s highest rated Fall drama premiere in six years.

And let’s hope that those numbers stick around, because the show looks to only get better once these world-building, exposition-laden episodes get out of the way (and they are pretty exposition-laden!).

Tom Mison as Ichabod Crane. Mison has already been voted Fall 2013's Breakout Star by the Television Critics Association, according to the Hollywood Reporter.
Tom Mison as Ichabod Crane. Mison has already been voted Fall 2013’s Breakout Star by the Television Critics Association, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

Just a Story About a Guy, and a Girl,and a Headless Horseman…

Sleepy Hollow is a modern retelling of Washington Irving’s classic, The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. But this one has a modern action flare right from the start. In the teaser opening, we meet Ichabod Crane (Mison) in 1781, busily—and quite handily—killing British soldiers in the Revolutionary War; in a rapid series of shots we see Crane kill the Horseman; the Horseman reviving only to slash Crane open; and Crane decapitating the Horseman; then, suddenly, we’re in modern day Sleepy Hollow and a dazed Crane is digging himself out of a grave and stumbling out into the fog, where he eventually meets up with Beharie, who plays Deputy Sheriff Abbie Mills, a sarcastic, ambitious, slightly pushy deputy sheriff who manages to remain likeable even while slogging through a number of the tepid, trope-heavy procedural scenes.

The first twenty minutes are engrossing, startling, funny, engaging and, quite honestly, great television. The show moves, the actors seem at home in their characters, the dialogue sparkles and pops, doling out enough information to move forward but never seeming forced or out of place. The first twenty minutes of Sleepy Hollow are pretty darn close to perfect television—the Starbucks conversation between Crane and Beharie is short, funny, blisteringly socially aware while also being deprecatingly self-aware and there’s only about five lines of dialogue. This is when Sleepy Hollow is at its best.

Series leads Mison and Beharie complement each other—on-screen together, they have the easy give and take of a long partnership, at times combative and other times comedic. Mison, in particular, portrays a man-out-of-his-time with wry humor and a bleak, buried sorrow that lends a gravity to him that would have been hard to manage in a lesser actor; Beharie inhabits her deputy-sheriff-with-a-past with a natural ease and great charm. The supporting cast—Cho, Jones and Brown—make the most of the limited screen time they have, and they all play off each other superbly, taking even some of the more monotonous lines and imbuing them with an honesty which enriches the whole show.

Courtesy of FOX. Beharie as Deputy Sheriff Abbie Mills and Mison as Ichabod Crane.
Courtesy of FOX. Beharie as Deputy Sheriff Abbie Mills and Mison as Ichabod Crane.

And Then Things Got a Little Weird

Unfortunately, after about twenty minutes, the show got pilot-itis, and started trying to explain itself. Three or four scenes in particular stand out for their overly-expositional, stridently info-dumping tone; which is so discordant when compared to rest of the episode, we can only assume  an executive at Fox got nervous, and started suggest/insist-ing that more exposition was needed—and those info-scenes got added to the detriment of others (i.e.: information is alluded to late in the episode that was never actual given during the episode itself, which smacks of a cut or deleted scene).  It may not be the nicest thing, to blame the Execs, but they can take the punch, since they still owe us all for cancelling Firefly.

It’s a pity, because what was good was so very, very good that the audience probably could have stood for being left a little confused longer—even two or three episodes in—in return for the quality remaining high throughout. Again, we’re going to blame the Fox executives for that. Since, you know, they cancelled Firefly.

Things got a little weird—there seems to be an odd blurring between the Sheriff’s office (usually an elected official beholden to a county council) and the police precinct; the Horseman turned in his axe, which was MAGIC, for a shotgun (which may also be magic…since the shells do burst into flame); George Washington is also apparently a supernatural/demon hunter; and the apocalypse figures in (don’t worry about being confused, because the show will spell that out for you three times before the end of the pilot).

Courtesy of Fox. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him
Courtesy of Fox. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him

And Then Clancy Brown Quoted the King James Bible

However, despite the occasional ‘what, wait?’ and the sudden onset of pilot-itis, there is an intriguing heart to Sleepy Hollow. The cast is invested and believable, there’s plenty of humor, the murder-mysteries could be intriguing, and the scare factor is definitely there (there is one scene, with a blurry demon…well, no spoilers. Just…phew…). Plus, you get a pretty hardcore “these bad guys mean business” ending.

The pilot is often the weakest episode in a show’s history—many successful shows have had problematic pilots. Sleepy Hollow has much more going for it than against it, and the second episode looks to be full of even more absurd odd couple/crime solving/Armageddon preventing adventure.

We don’t know about your Monday’s, but ours could do with a little more of that.

Sleepy Hollow airs Monday’s on Fox at 9 p.m; the pilot can be viewed online here.

Score:

Pilot Episode: 3.5/5

Overall Show: Possibly a 4, even a 4.5 out of 5. Excited to see how the  next few episodes do!

San Diego is upon us! And just like in years past, the Geekscape booth has become a cool place to meet all sorts of creators and personalities (beyond our own)!

As SDCC 2013 starts up, here’s the signings and appearance schedule for the Geekscape booth #3919! Be sure to drop by not only to meet some great people but also to see what the folks at Lionforge Comics have brewing, get your first look at our Miami Vice comic book (in addition to LionForge’s Knight Rider, AirWolf and a ton of others) and see the first footage from Paul London: The Hero of the Prophecy!

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Thursday 18th
1pm – Pinup Star Claire Sinclair
2pm – Adult Personality Tanya Tate

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3pm – The Cupcake Quarterly Signing

Friday 19th
12pm – 1:30pm – Orlando Jones

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2pm – Carl Reed and Lorenzo Lizana Free Sketch Break!
4pm – Blood Kiss Signing (Amber Benson, writer Michael Reeves and perhaps a special guest!)
5:30pm – Ballistic Signing with Artist Darick Robertson and Writer Adam Mortimer

Saturday 20th
11am – 12pm – Orlando Jones
1:30pm – 2:30pm Noon – Space Command (Doug Jones, Bill Mumy, creators from Star Trek, Babylon 5 etc.)

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3pm – Rampage Jackson
4pm – Female All Shapes and Sizes Post-Panel Signing (Miracle Laurie, Adrianne Curry, Leah Cevoli, Helena Santos Levy, Dani Lennon and more!)

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Sunday 21st
11pm – Carl Reed and Lorenzo Lizana Free Sketch Break!
2pm – Carl Reed and Lorenzo Lizana Free Sketch Break!
3pm – Comic Book Writer Josh Dysart

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We run from tipoff to buzzer on this episode of Geekscape! Kenny is back in the studio and we kick off a discussion about how much fun ‘Star Trek into Darkness’ is and what everyone’s worries are about the newly announced Xbox One! Actor and producer Orlando Jones calls in to talk about his new Machinima Prime series ‘Tainted Love’ and its comic book origins (really, you should be watching it)! We also talk about the upcoming show ‘Sleepy Hollow’ and how it really is a geek labor of love for show runners Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman! Also, how is the new digital distribution age giving new opportunities to creators to finally be the geeks they truly are?!? PLUS! Geekscape friend Leah Cevoli calls up to talk about ‘The Night Visitor’, an alien feature film shot in 5 days that could use your Kickstarter love!

Now playing on Machinima Prime is a new series from a surprising star/writer, Orlando Jones. It turns out that he’s a comic book aficionado and absolutely loves graphic novels.  His new series, Tainted Love is an interesting mix of media, combining live action with a graphic novel. The story however, is not for the kiddies: the plot is urban, contemporary, and if it was rated it would certainly be an “R”.

Orlando Jones stars as Barry, a criminal suffering from “Tainted Love.” He’s a hustler who has a way of making ends meet, but when he hooks up with lady love, ‘Jezebel’, played by Deanna Russo (Being Human, Burning Love), things start to go crazy, including a non-so-planned pregnancy.

Notorious good actor who plays bad guys, Eric Roberts (The Dark Knight, The Expendables), brings his own brand of tough guy to the production as well. He plays a crime boss not unlike the one he played as Marconi in Nolan’s Batman. In addition, Maz Jobrani (Axis of Evil Comedy Tour) and Jim Jefferies (Legit) bring comedic touches to the show.

In an exclusive interview I spoke with Orlando about this hilarious, laugh out loud series.

Allie Hanley: Tell me about your new series ‘Tainted Love’, that you wrote and also star in.

Orlando Jones: It is an action comedy, graphic novel, at least that’s how I describe it anyway. The ideology is really just based on that we all love things that we are not supposed to, and as amazing as love is, it is often tainted.

I really like that idea and I really thought telling the story about characters that people think have no dignity and therefore, people treating them as if they have no humanity. Just an idea that I was interested in exploring.

Barry and Jezebel are two criminals having a kid, which felt to me like “Tainted Love.”  They love the criminal parts of their lives, and at the same time they are having a kid which just seemed like crazy making to me.

AH: So your show is part live action, part graphic novel; Whose idea was that, and how hard was that to incorporate into live action story?

OJ: I think there were a lot of challenges to figure out. It was definitely an idea that I had and the simple idea was that if you were to create Batman or Iron Man, or whatever the comic book is, you  wouldn’t do it the same way you would do it in the 50’s or the 60’s, even the 70’s for that matter, where in you would draw this and then launch it in the print business. I mean every week we hear about the dying print business and how everything is moving to digital so I thought in 2013 if I was to launch a graphic novel into the space, I thought where would I do that and how would I do that? It meant that it had to be live action and how would that come to life? It also meant that you had to go where that audience is, and that would be Machinima. At the time I didn’t know anyone really at Machinima. At the time I didn’t think I was going to walk in and pitch them a live action graphic novel and have them go great, let me write you a check. So I felt the burden was really on me if I wanted to tell that story, and try to figure out how to do it with my partners.

Ultimately what you are looking at is pretty much collaboration with those individuals. It’s been an exciting ride. Incorporation of art created a whole other set of different issues because it needed to feel that the graphic novel was the basis of it, and that it was in fact, coming alive.

It meant first deciding what your art was going to look like; and then secondly the art needed to be original and fresh. Thirdly that the visual effects elements were there to make it come alive, and lastly that the narrative felt organic.

A lot of that was trial and error, and a lot of that was planning. Frankly we were just fortunate that it all came together, happy that it all came together. It certainly affects the way we told the story, because the rules are different on Machinima than they are on a traditional expense.

AH: Your series rolls at a fast pace, and is definitely for adults. Your co-star Deanna Russo has a lot of screen time with you, and a lot of skin to skin action as well. Tell me about that, and if you guys were friends before that…. And just for fun, can you do it in an Alabama accent since I know that’s your home state?

OJ <in a crazy Southern Accent>: Well I remember seeing her a couple times on the television… and she’s hot to trot. So I asked her if she would come on over and meet with me. And she came on down there, and she had the right spirit and the right attitude and I didn’t want her to be some side-arm, ya know what I mean? So she’s a comic book nerd herself -ya know? And I wanted her not to be the way so many other women are portrayed on television – ya know? What I mean, not another girlfriend or just a pair a boobs. I told her she was driving this, and I am going to be following you. Then she looked at me like I was crazy; and then she thought I was bullshittin’ but I wasn’t. And that there is the way it came together.

AH: Thanks for cracking us up with that funny accent! You’re the best! So in episode 2 we get a look at “Fred Lucus” played by Eric Roberts in a role that looks similar to the one he played in the Christopher Nolan Batman movies, will we be seeing a lot of him in the 6 episodes?

OJ: You will see pieces of him, they are definitely there. In this story I wanted to spend most of my time with the two lead characters. Eric is hysterical and amazing in it. But I think he represents an image (for me), the type of bad guy that’s very funny. His interest in violence is really secondary to his interest in his brand of playing the bad ass. For me, he does things for his brand and he doesn’t really do things that are personal. So “Barry” creates a scenario where he invokes him in personal way. I don’t want to spoil it.

We’ve been fortunate to take this to the big screen and you will get to see more of that character as it plays out. Because there is a definitely an idea of how a bad guy is suppose to be, not just a pretend bad guy.

AH: He’s got the look, that’s for sure.

OJ: Ha ha, yes he does.

Looking for more from Orlando Jones? He’ll be joining Jonathan on Thurday’s episode of Geekscape! Check it out at 6PM PST on the Toadhop Network! Watch chapter one of Tainted Love below, and let us know what you think!

Between the increased interest in comic book adaptations and the success of AMC’s The Walking Dead, Robert Kirkman is poised to become a real force in Hollywood. So it’s only a matter of time before we see a film version of Kirkman’s other hit comic Invincible.

With the right cast, it could be the next blockbuster franchise. So who would Geekscape like to see bring to life probably the coolest superhero comic book in the universe?

ZAC EFRON as INVINCIBLE

If only the goggles didn't hide those eyes...

Boyish good looks, perfect body, earnest eyes- has there ever been anyone more suited to play a superhero than Zac Efron? The High School Musical heartthrob has yet to find the role to propel him to super-stardom. Playing nascent hero Mark Grayson would require him to display both vulnerability and raw power.

For those who have their doubts about Efron’s acting chops, check out his charming performance in the little-seen Me and Orson Welles.

 

LYNDSY FONSECA as ATOM EVE

Pink is my favorite color...

Neither a female iteration of a male character nor a mere damsel in distress, Atom Eve has quickly become one of the strongest women in comics, and Lyndsy Fonseca is the perfect choice to convey that strength on film. Fonseca effortlessly lit up the screen as the girl next door in Kick-Ass, begging the question, “Wouldn’t it be more fun just to watch her kick ass?”

 

JON HAMM as OMNI-MAN

The moustache is fake. The rest is all Hamm.

Besides being the only man alive handsome enough to be credible as Zac Efron’s dad, Jon Hamm is also one of the finest actors working today. In the past few years, fans have suggested Hamm for the roles of both Superman and Captain America for the same reason he is perfect to play Nolan Grayson, the premier super hero of the world of Invincible: the steel authority he personifies in The Town and Mad Men.

 

BEBE NEUWIRTH as DEBORAH GRAYSON

Mom I'd Like to Film- wait, that still sounds bad.

Rounding out the best-looking family in movie history, Bebe Neuwirth is ideal to play Mark’s doting mother and Nolan’s long-suffering wife. The Emmy-winning actress is more than capable of portraying the pride and pain of the ultimate bystander.

 

PETER WELLER as CECIL STEADMAN

It's Robocop's turn on dispatch.

A former superhero himself, Weller has been alternating between good guy and sleazeball his entire career. The role of ruthless patriot Cecil Steadman would allow him to split the difference.

 

KANE HODDER as THE MAULER TWINS

Friday the 13th 2: Attack of the Clones

Kane Hodder played Jason Voorhees, the ultimate grunt, in four Friday the 13th films. He would be both fun and intimidating in a Social Network-style dual role as the contrary clones.

 

ORLANDO JONES as ANGSTROM LEVY

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Funnyman Jones is one of those actors whose chameleonic range has kept him from becoming a household name. Playing nice guy scientist-turned-mutated villain Levy would give him the chance to show both his affability and acting chops.

So what do you think? Are you a fan of Invincible? Let us know who YOU’D like to see in a movie version!