Briefly: We’re teaming up with our friends at Skype and SkypeMoments to do something brand new: conversations with fellow Geek creators via Skype! These are in depth discussions about the creative process, influences, advice and the ups and downs of the creator life!

This episode we’ve got fellow comic book writer Judd Winick (Green Lantern, Green Arrow, eXiles) talking about his brand new All Ages book Hilo! Judd wrote and drew the book himself… and it’s the first of six, so he has a lot to say about the process of writing for others, making something yourself and just getting your foot in the door!

It’s really an incredible conversation between two great creatives (Winick and our very own Jonathan London, duh), and it’s one of the lengthiest, focussed, in-depth Geekscape conversations that I’ve heard in some time.

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Enjoy! And you can order your very own copy of the first Hilo book right here!

Renowned comic book writer Judd Winick and Legendary Comics have teamed up for A Town Called Dragon, a new comic book series about a small, good ol’ American town hiding one hell of a fire-breathing secret: It has kept hidden the world’s last dragon egg. And it has finally hatched.

I spoke to Judd Winick awhile back to ask why on Earth he unleashed a dragon in the middle of Colorado.

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Off the bat I want to say I’m hooked. I love dragons, and who doesn’t? But what inspired you to put a dragon to terrorize a small Colorado town? What inspired the A Town Called Dragon?

Judd: Well, it’s an idea I’ve been kicking around for awhile. I always loved dragons, and I’ve always wanted to do a contemporary story about dragons. And fortunately or unfortunately, I did not have time to write and draw the story myself. I didn’t have a creator-owned outlet that I could jump into. So the story has been sitting in my head for awhile. Which allowed me to work out some of the kinks! You know, so I could come around to the idea that I wanted a story that finally wound up between being somewhere between dragon slayer and Northern Exposure meets Jaws. [laughs] Yeah. I like the idea of a small town taking on a dragon. That’s what it finally came down to. And then things started to fall into place as far as the last dragon egg and having a town that is a tourist-trap devoted to dragon stuff.

About the small town. I get a Roswell or Salem type of vibe from the city. Were they models for Dragon, Colorado? Did you do any traveling to those tourist towns? 

Judd: No, I mean, I’ve been to a lot of tourist towns. I’m an old dude, I’ve been all over the country for various reasons. And I’ve stayed in tourist-trap towns. And I like that as a motif, I do! [laughs] I like the idea of a small town that is giving up everything to just make a buck off whatever it is. I know for Salem, I’ve been there too, and you can’t throw a rock without hitting something that has a witch on it. It’s hilarious! And it’s barely shameless, but at the same time I find it to be kind of fun. Like, yeah, let’s go for it! These are people’s bread and butter! Witches, man. And that somebody’s bread and butter might be dragons, in the middle of ski country, kinda cracked me up.

I was incredibly amused that in the story, it was dragons that made Leif Erikson explore the Americas. Which is now one of my favorite historical facts.

Judd: Thank you so much! I am very proud of that one myself. [laughs]

It’s kind of a trend now to bring the fantastic into the real world — like Fables, Once Upon A Time — and to simultaneously explain history with the more mysterious. How do you intend to stay different from other stories?

Judd: Well, for one I hope it’s funny. I hope to do it with a lot of comedy. And I actually think a lot of the stuff is still pretty fertile ground. Looking at the most fantastical stuff and taking it to the most down-to-Earth story, I think we’re still ready to go there on a regular basis. Whether it’s Sleepy Hollow or this. I’m taking it from the point of view of the most regular bunch of people and now thrust with dealing with a dragon. And we’re not spending too much time hemming and awwing about figuring out if the dragon is real, or this guy is crazy, or “All your crackpot ideas, there are no dragons!” We kind of get right to it. Where everyone sees it. We move from, “What’s going on?” to “Oh my God, it’s a real dragon!” And I like that part of it.

We’re not going to have a lot of hand-wringing. That is the non-Jaws aspect of it. We move along at a fast-clip. We don’t have a sheriff trying to convince the town the threat is real. When it shows up in the middle of town and it’s twenty-five feet tall and breathing fire, everyone believes him.

About the characters in the town. Particularly Cooper. He’s got a lot of poorly pent-up rage. The first panel we see him, he’s ready to do battle against the dragon. He’s yelling. He’s enraged. And then when we’re properly introduced to him in the diner, he lashes out at the mayor. What’s his deal?

Judd: You’re an excellent reader sir. Can I tell you that? [laughs] You’re picking up on every cue!

[laughs] Thank you!

Judd: This is all quite intentional and this will all be laid down. Cooper is at the center of our story, and what I liked about the way I got to tell the story is that [although] he’s at the center, but at first a little bit off the center. We don’t get to see that he’s going to be our protagonist right away. We’re told that right away he’s the guy, and when we’re told he’s not the guy, we wonder how does he get in the middle of it all. Yeah, Cooper has had a lot of disappointment. Things that have led him to be still in this small town running a diner and he’s resigned himself to what his fate is. And now his fate will change again, as we’ll see.

He’s had a couple shots at the big show. And things have not turned out well at all. It’s sort of brought him back to where he started. So now here he is with an entirely different show in front of him. You’re right, he is definitely pissed, [laughs] and he definitely has a lot of questions and he’s going to find answers in an odd way: facing the dragon.

I’ve been looking over some of your other work. You’ve done The Life & Times of Juniper Lee, you’ve written Batman, you’ve written Green Lantern, you’re writing The Awesomes on Hulu, and of course you had the seminal graphic novel Pedro & Me. What are some of your influences? Particularly this book, but what influences you overall? 

Judd: From lots of places. I’m first and foremost a cartoonist. So I come to all of this from a place of growing up reading Bloom CountyAnd on the flip side I was reading superhero comics, which I never thought I’d get into. My love of superhero comics kind of gave way to me becoming a superhero writer which also gave way to other forms of storytelling.

I pretty much thought my whole life was going to be sitting at a drafting table drawing cartoons. And, now I’ve come full circle again doing that. But, as far as influences, a lot of this stuff has always come from comedy and comedic-drama, more than anything else. I often talk about how some of the best drama are really funny, and how the best action-adventure are really, really funny. Everything from Raiders of the Lost Ark to Buffy to The Avengers. I think one of the great success Marvel is having is turning their comics into motion pictures is they understand that you’ve gotta have jokes. And you just need to know how to deliver it too.

Like the shawarma.

Judd: Yeah! Oh my God. You know, it’s the greatest capper to the movie. He’s doing this shawarma joke when he’s down on his back, and then they did the callback. The silent callback, “let’s not milk it.” It’s great. It’s hysterical, and it just makes you love the movie. And I’m as dark and as dreary and grim as anybody, I was the bringer of the grim storytelling to DC Comics in the late ’90s/early ’00s, I’m that guy. But also, I tried to make it funny. So my influences are in that way. Like Jaws. Jaws is funny. I think it’s one thing that taught me early on that you could do something pretty horrific but also managed to find the humor in it.

So, yes, this story is totally rife with H.P. Lovecraft and old school, medieval sword and sorcery type of stuff. But it also is very much like an episode of Northern Exposure .

My reading of the book so far is the dragon as a metaphor for dark secrets that we hide from neighbors, or ugly lies underneath modern society. But that’s just me. What is it ultimately that you want to say with A Town Called Dragon?

Judd: I guess the big theme is that we are all here for a reason. That will be more obvious as the story goes on. There’s a reason why — this is not going to be a mystery or a spoiler — this is the basic storytelling trope of a ragtag group of misfits who band together to fight a monster. [laughs] I wanted to take that trop and work it in a way that was kind of funny, interesting, and exciting. But the underlying message is everyone is brought here together for a reason and they’re going to see it will spelled out to them quite clearly.

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A Town Called Dragon is now available from Legendary Comics. Check out our review here.

What do you know about your hometown? I was born and raised in Edison, New Jersey. Indeed, it was named after Thomas Edison, who stole all his work from Tesla right here in beautiful Menlo Park. And by beautiful, I mean you can walk around at night and you won’t get shot. It has been ranked several times as the #2 or #35 best place to live, I can’t keep track. Or care. Obama came by to eat a sandwich here once. Kevin Smith bought one of his dogs at the mall. Susan Sarandon went to my grade school. It’s really boring. It doesn’t have a dragon or anything.

Yeah, a dragon. Judd Winick, the award-winning comic book writer, has tackled on an epic of sorts in his new series, A Town Called DragonAnd it’s pretty damn good.

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Thousands and thousands of years are sandwiched between two major events: the killing of the last known dragon on Earth, and the birth, the hatching of a new egg. After killing the dragon, the legendary vikings — led by Leif Erikson, because of course — travel across the sea to a far away land to hide the egg. They meet a grisly fate, but ensured the egg will not see the light of day. And from there, we are in modern-day Colorado.

Dragon, Colorado is a tourist town. They know about their dragon history and they enjoy banking on it because it’s fun. If you’ve ever been to Salem, Massachusetts, or Roswell, New Mexico, it’s kind of like that except with dragons. Yet, beyond the dragon gimmick it’s a pretty unremarkable town, and only gets traffic from people coming in and out of the nearby ski resort. The town is populated by characters you would come to expect: the local weirdo who loves to tell tales, the Mayor who wants to milk the town’s gimmick for all its worth, and regular people trying to live a normal life. And for the most part, they do.

At the center of A Town Called Dragon is Cooper, a former high school football star who never lived up to his potential. The townspeople remember his time on a battlefield of sorts, and they hold it up high like a folk hero, much to his disdain. He’s clearly not satisfied with how his life turned out, and he refuses to bend to some of their whims. He runs a diner, untouched by anything dragon-related, and struggles to keep it that way. His friend Mickey alerts him to foreign agents seeking the egg, but no one believes him. And then, in the treacherous mountains where no one believes Mickey had survived climbing in such a short time, where he claims to have seen Germans trying to uncover the dragon egg, hell breaks loose.

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There is about sixty pages in this comic and it goes by like a breeze. It’s the first issue, so it’s wrong to say that nothing happens, because they clearly and so cleanly do, but it’s obvious that you won’t see the terror you’d want to see on the first round. But again, that’s okay.

Even though you won’t see this tiny little town wrecked to shit by a dragon, you do see some action and it is drawn quite gloriously. The opening viking battle against the dragon is thrilling, and if you let yourself you can see this fight happening like a movie. Brown armor and sandy dust mixed with vivid red blood, it contrasts itself nicely with the more serene midwestern American town later in the comic. The art is remarkably unified. You could whiz back and fourth between the epic ancient scenery with the quaint little town and it looks, appropriately and expectedly, like the same story. While the art isn’t realistic and detailed like you would see in a Marvel or DC book, there is a stylistic edge here. It must come from the compromise between the fantastical element and the modern setting, but it works here even if it largely sticks to a single color palette.

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The story has only just begun, and although the book is a pretty lengthy sixty pages, it goes by quick and you’re left waiting for the next issue like I am. It’s a book very much worth checking out, and is probably one of the most unique modern fantasies on shelves right now. It’s just a bummer that you might finish the issue before you leave the parking lot.

Geekscape gives A Town Called Dragon #1 a 3/5 stars. It is available now.

DC has had another writer decide to depart from their creative team. Last week Rob Liefeld decided to leave and now it’s been announced that Judd Winick will be leaving Batwing. He told the following to Newsarama:

“It’s with a heavy heart that I announce that I’ll be leaving the DC monthly Batwing. I’ve had a terrific time on the title and have loved crafting this adventure with some phenomenal people. Artists Ben Oliver, Marcus To, and Brain Reber have made these stories come to life. I will miss telling the tales of David Zavimbe, the Batman of Africa in many ways, but I’m proud of the work we’ve done. My departure is simply a time issue. I’m pursing a few other projects that make it impossible for me continue doing a monthly book.

My departure is simply a time issue. I’m pursing a few other projects that make it impossible for me continue doing a monthly book.”

Winick had previously walked away from Catwoman after receiving excessive amounts of criticism for his writing of the title. His departure from the comic is definitely not as blown up and excessive as Liefeld’s and definitely hasn’t gone on to him calling out writer Scott Snyder. Oh, if you didn’t know about that one…it’s something to look up. Winick has not confirmed what his last issue will be, but DC has him as the writer on the title through November’s issue #14. No new writer has been announced by DC yet.